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Old 04-22-2017, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by BoogersXDm View Post
Not exactly.

"It is thought the .45 caliber revolver [meaning the Constabulary Model 1902 ] is the one which should be issued to troops throughout the Army. Instances have repeatedly been reported during the past year where natives have been shot through and through several times with a .38 caliber revolver, and have come on, cutting up the unfortunate individual armed with it. The .45 caliber revolver stops a man in his tracks, usually knocking him down.
Most likely a statement based on anecdotes. Through the laws of physics, we know that no handgun bullet can knock a man down.

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Its physics. And, there are still benefits in the opinion of others to being able to handle bigger calibers- even if those benefits are marginal and difficult to quantify beyond historical anecdotes and the preference of those who choose them.
That may be true but it is just about impossible to measure the differences in incapacitation effects between calibers. The best course of action is to go with what makes you comfortable.

There are numerous accounts of weapons failures against fanatical Moros. These failures included handguns and rifles. There were large caliber handgun failures too.

Here is an excerpt from an article by Jack Lott that was featured in the Guns&Ammo 1973 Annual:

"Among the great pirate leaders was the remarkable Jikiri, the Samal pirate who commenced operations in the year 1907 and then cut a bloody swath for two subsequent years. Jikiri was the object of taunts as a youth because of mismatched eyes.Taller than most Moros, who are typically short and sinewy, Jikiri had an Acquiline nose and broad shoulders-perhaps indicated Arab blood.As he told Jammang, one of he henchmen, "The strength of my kris arm will comfort the women who now shun me.

After a lightening succession of raids by Jikiri and his corsairs, the U.S. Government put up rewards totaling 4000 pesos for Jikiri dead or alive. Triple guards were put on army posts when Jikiri replied to the reward announcement by saying he would run "juramentado" in the streets of Jolo on the first of September, but not until he had cut down a special list of 100 men. Jikiri told the army to maintain a triple guard. To combat the growing menace the government permanently assigned undercover officer Captain De Witt to Jikiri's case. Jikiri had so demoralized the pearl fishermen that they shunned the sea and then he turned his attention to British North Borneo. The British quickly took the field against the raiders and a force of constabulary captured three of his men, placed them under guard of three soldiers in their vinta, or sailboat, and towed it by steam launch. When well out of port the captain of the launch heard a shout aft in the vinta and turned to see one of the Moros lop the head off a guard. The rest of the men in the vinta, both guards and pirates, jumped in the water. The assailant then took the line attached to the launch and pulled the vinta toward the launch. The Moro leaped on board the launch and headed toward the captain who pulled his .455 Webley service revolver putting three shots into the Moro who dropped at the third shot and then rose as if unaffected to pursue the officer across the deck. The captain then fired his three remaining shots into the pirate again dropping him to the deck. But again the nerveless Moro rose and charged the now horrified officer standing with an empty Webley in his hand and facing a seemingly phantom Moro with a large kris. The captain turned to grab his rifle as the Moro delivered a terrific blow to the side of his head and then turned his attention to the Chinese engineer. While the Moro was intently engaged in chopping the unfortunate Chinese into chop suey the captain recovered enough to fire five .303 slugs into the Moro who finally fell dead. Jikiri roused not only the British and American authorities but the Moro authorities as well and every man's hand was turned against him and his krismen."


Why the .38 was singled out for condemnation beats me. Perhaps it was the prejudice of many years of criticism by the .45 advocates. I find it hard to believe that .094 inch difference in bullet diameter would have been noticed by these fanatical warriors.
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