Great find there Rex. I'm not a collector so will defer to the more knowledgable here on the forum on that. The 38S&W though... I acquired a Pre Victory not too long ago in 38 S&W and the forum here convinced me the best purpose for this firearm is a shooter. Worried about ammo,I started looking around. Almost a full box of ammo, about 25 years old, came with the pistol, my son found a couple boxes @ an Academy in the Houston area and on a local sporting website I found 1000+ rounds for sale. 1 sealed and one opened can of 500 each, imported military(?) stuff and some opened boxes of various commercial stuff. All brass, boxer primed. With the addition of a set of dies I now am set for life on ammo for my firearm. I have also seen it advertised on various sporting goods (Midway + more) web sites. It is a very mild round which even Mrs Lobo enjoys shooting and is one of my "planted" home defense arms.