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Originally Posted by BAM-BAM
Been following this thread:
Referencing back to my earlier post (#15) ......9mm carbine "no added value"...ya; we can't have full auto....... but ... what about the H&K MP5 and Uzi; and who can forget the Sten,Sterling, MP-38 and 42.
With 4 points of contact (hands, cheek and shoulder) and a red dot.......one can "pump out" 3-5 round "bursts" from a Beretta CX4 Storm at 300-400rpm....getting tight fist size groups at 40-50 yds.
20-30 round factory mags and can be paired up with a Beretta 92.
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Not to start an argument, but none of these weapons would make sense for their intended users - or be made at all - without full auto. Their whole reason for being was to provide a lot of close to medium range suppressive firepower in a small package. Half of these guns don't even shoot in semi-auto in the original military version.
As to the "added value", my question wasn't on the added value of 9mm carbines as a class, but more on why to choose an AR15 carbine - which is pretty much guaranteed to cost at least around $600 - over a $300 Hi-Point carbine, in something that's a pretty niche market.