Thanks to all for the suggestions. One thing that surprised me recently was shooting 100+ rounds of factory 130gr ball ammo and everything was virtually spotless. No powder residue at all. Winchester brand loaded at around 850fps according to box if I remember correctly. Always wondered if factory loaded ammo was loaded using powder available to us. Especially Winchester. I think they are the only company that sells powder as well as factory ammo. I do know from pulling bullets through the years that manufacturers do change powders at times. I've seen the same load but with different lot numbers that would have powder that were completely different at least in appearance. BUT with all that has been said, I'm sort of glad there is no one perfect powder and/or bullet. That would eliminate 90 percent of the fun in reloading. I'm sure a lot of us would load even if there was not a huge money saving. I think every range trip consist of at least one "new load" to try out.