In the last 10 years I have only heard about one 650 for sale in my local area. Saw it listed at a LGS that I frequent and headed out to look at it. By the time I got there it was gone. Guys told me I was the fourth guy to ask. First guy bought it. It was supposedly ANIB. The guy that bought it gave 1k. I don't think I would have gone that much! They are very collectible among S&W guys and rarely come up for sale here in gun-unfriendly MA. My grail kit gun would be the 651 4". Never have seen one. I finally bought a new Charter Arms target pathfinder 22 mag with adj. sights and 4.2 bbl. Not a Smith but not too bad either. Shoots pretty good and for $400, cost less than half of what used 651 would go for. But I'll keep looking.