I think maybe my "can't shoot worth a hoot" comment was misleading. I actually am proficient. Not saying I wouldn't benefit from a lesson but I can keep my shots on a sheet of notebook paper with my new 637. I load a 250 gr Kieth bullet with 19.3 grains of 2400 for the M29. I'm minute of milk jug with those. But, there's always room for improvement.