What duckford failed to mention / or realize is that the 2.8 gr load of Bullseye with a 148 gr wc worked because of the significantly reduced case capacity vs using a std 158 gr bullet in 38spl . Try that same load with a std 158 gr swc in a 38spl cartridge and the results will be much different . My yrs and yrs of reloading has given me the experience to say what I previously posted .