Originally Posted by rwsmith

....I shot 4" groups at 20 yards, but after finding the right load, my groups reduced to 3" or thereabouts. But it doesn't look like it makes a whole lotta difference. Maybe something could be shown with a Ransom rest setup, but I don't shoot that way. I don't even shoot off a beanbag. In fact, one week I can be deadeye at the range and next week look like a beginner.

I've heard many people say that they fiddled around with a load until they found the most accurate. If they've done this what improvement do they see when they find the 'sweet spot'. The most accurate to me is usually a heavy, slow slug, mainly because they don't have much recoil that causes me to completely re-set up my follow up shots. Staying sub-sonic from start to finish of the flight, I believe may be a plus, due to avoiding turbulence in the transonic region, but that's just a theory.

I've also heard people say that they shoot silver dollar sized groups at 20 yards. Is this with a standard DA/SA revolver with factory sights or a target gun with optics?

I should ask this on the Self Defense forum, but some people insist on using the 'most accurate' ammo in their SD guns. It makes me wonder how valid this is as the ability of an offhand shooter vs. more/less accurate ammo. Especially at SD distances.