Not listed as the Gold Dots...it's a sjhp that looks nearly identical to the bullet Winchester is using.

I haven't contacted them. Again I'm not bashing Buffalo Bore...I carry their 158swchp standards in my M36 and they work great. I was looking for something with a little less recoil for my M442. Thought I'd try these. Just seeing if any of you had tested them in something other than water jugs or carried them yourself.

They shoot fine in the 442, as do the Win. white box +p's. I wouldn't hesitate to carry either for self defense....I'm a firm believer that shot placement is by far the most important variable and type of bullet won't make a major difference... all else being equal.

Won't stop me from searching for that MAGIC bullet!