Started with 5.2gr of Power Pistol. Gave me the same POI as the Speer lawman 158gr stuff I've been shooting with a tad less recoil. May try and bump it up to 5.5 but for punching paper why bother? Of the 20 plated I loaded all weighed in between 157.5 and 158.5. For the price I would certainly do this again.