I did a couple of rounds of the Hornady Critical Defense slug and two balls while at the range today, I can't shoot anything smaller than 00 buck due to the bullet trap will just bounce it back. At 25 yards the slug hit dead center of the target, one ball dropped about 8 inches and to the left near the edge of the target, the third ball was in the bottom right corner of the target. At 15 yards the slug and two balls were within a foot of each other.