We've seen a lot of these threads and questions over the years. I would say (and this is just my own estimate), that Winchester NATO 124 grain ammunition will get somewhere between 1140-1180 in service length handguns. In spite of the warnings on the box, I believe that this load's pressure is only mildly +P by U.S. standards and probably average by western European standards. Note that pressure and velocity don't always correlate due to various factors such as burn rate, etc. Some NATO countries use 115 grain bullets, which appeared fairly early in the 9mm Parabellum's life.