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Old 06-18-2018, 03:00 PM
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A difference of opinion on method? Yes. Debunked? Not even close. Staying on topic, "357 Magnum Effectiveness", the *performance* of the 125 Grain .357 Magnum Jacketed Hollow Point has never been "debunked" by anyone's testing and research, whether the results were taken from ballistic gel lab tests (Fackler), or from documented actual street shootings of living people (Marshall/Sanow).

"The bottom line from my perspective would be that if you want to know the penetration depth and permanent crush cavity created by a given bullet in 10% ballistic gelatin, read Fackler. If you want to know what bullets have actually done to real, living people (and animals of similar size under controlled conditions), read Marshall & Sanow and the results from Strasbourg."
Chuck Hawks
Fackler, Marshall, and Handgun Stopping Power Tests

357 Magnum PDX1 125gr Ballistic Gel Test - YouTube
The issue with studying anecdotal events, like M&S, every shooting is diff. One guy folds COM hit, another guy takes 3 & keeps going. So where do you draw the line? The one shot stop is more luck than science, unless you get a CNS, & then caliber doesn't mean anything. The 357mag is a good fight stopper. How much better than say 9mm, 40 or 45 with good JHP is the only question.
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