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Old 06-24-2018, 08:12 PM
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Hello,

Ok, everyone here have really helped me. Now to my next concern.

I will only use a AR15 for home defense, and I have been target practicing. I have red dot, I have quality flashlight mounted, its sight in for about 25 yards, i am good to go.

I have a serious questions regarding using my AR15 for home defense. I live in suburb area, in a brick home, just me and wife. Our neighbors home are nearby in about 5 yards away side by side and across the street.

I have my AR15 all setup with flashlight and red dot. My wife have a 12 gauge shot gun with flashlight. I also have a SW M&P 9 mm with flashlight. I go to gun store to buy ammo, and the salesperson says "you know you can kill your neighbor if that AR15 bullet leave your house, and it will". I did not think of this and got really concerned.

I am scared that bullets will live my house and possible injury or kill my neighbor and get charged with murder. I really do no want that to happen.

1. Do you recommend AR15 for home defense? If no, is it because of too much penetration and hurt the neighbors?

2. What ammo do your recommend that will not penetrate and go to neighbor home and injury them?

Thank you kindly.
Never believe the person behind the counter at the gun store.

This question is like any other. It is more complicated than the clerk made it out to be.

It is all about ammo selection.

Get 5.56 ammo in the JHP varmint load category, and you will penetrate LESS than 9mm pistol ammo.

This has been studied originally at Gunsite and reported to us on Jeff Cooper's original newsletter many years ago. More recently in a widely published report.

From one article on the subject:

"First up is this older article by R.K. Taubert, a retired FBI agent with over 20 years experience who conducted extensive counter-terrorism and weapons research while with the Bureau.

To quote Mr Taubert, (emphasis mine) ” … As a result of renewed law enforcement interest in the .223 round and in the newer weapons systems developed around it, the FBI recently subjected several various .223 caliber projectiles to 13 different ballistic tests and compared their performance to that of SMG-fired hollow point pistol bullets in 9mm, 10mm, and .40 S&W calibers.

“Bottom Line: In every test, with the exception of soft body armor, which none of the SMG fired rounds defeated, the .223 penetrated less on average than any of the pistol bullets.”

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And again on this page, there is testing by Gunsite Training Center Staff which found in a comparison of handgun calibers (9mm, .40 S&W, .22 LR, .45 ACP), and rifle caliber .223 (5.56) that:

“The only calibers which did NOT exit the “house” were .223 (5.56) soft point and hollow point loaded bullets.”"

Why “High Powered” 5.56 NATO/.223 AR-15 Ammo is Safer For Home Defense (FBI overpenetration testing) | Prepared Gun Owners

Here is the actual Taubert article:

About .223 Penetration

There are a number of other articles on the topic. Here is one:

An AR for Home Defense? Clay, Drywall, Raw Meat & A Myth Busted! - GunsAmerica Digest

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