I used to shoot the small pie plates with my 629 6" at 100 yrds with iron sights. They didn't ring but they made easy to see targets. I was either shooting off hand or across the roof of my patrol car. Lee 240g SWC Cast wheel weights with gas checks. I wasn't using the best powder for that but it was what I had. Win 231 but I don't remember the grains off hand. I think I still have a couple hundred of those still around. I need to find them and blow them through my new 69.