Bearfoot, I don't think my reply worked. I bought the EC9s through buds guns, had it shipped over to Verona gun safe. Good guys there. Live in Stanton Hgts. section of da Burgh. Like the pistol a lot. I shoot up Wexford State Game Lands gun range. I'll need to run a few boxes through it, but I like the gun. Security9 is a real nice shooter, too. Jeff