Ok so I've spent $100 on the "best" supposedly reloading books and neither one have any data on 45 acp +p or 45 super or 460 rowland ammunition. I have the Lyman 50th edition and the Richard Lee 2nd edition. I'm quite disappointed in both, but they do seem like very good books otherwise.

I haven't seen the Sierra, Nosler, or Hornady books yet but I'm hesitant on ordering those as well. So far all I can seem to find is data online and I'm very leery on trusting that data.

Even hot loads for 45 acp come no where near close to factory advertised 45 acp +.

Does anyone know where or can point me in the direction or printed data for any of these cartridges?

Thank you!