Thanx all! Exactly what I am looking for! Red Dot keeps popping up. May need to get me a pound. Used to keep it for shotgun loads, but go much lighter on them now and not RD. See Titegroup in a lot of new cast load data, just not tried it yet. Still a lot of BE/Unique and have to get more HP-38 as I am low a LOT of my stuff likes it!