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Originally Posted by EMP3
Hoice Gracie was a has-been and never-was. He was a juicer (steroids).
MMA/UFC has referees. They're not "no holds barred" fights.
A journeyman boxer would have retired Hoice by the 2nd round.
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As the poster wrote above, the early UFC's were pretty much no holds barred with strikes to the groin, stomps to the head, and most other things being legal.
That boxer wouldn't have lasted one round in a no holds barred fight with Royce or any of the Gracies. James Toney found out how much his boxing helped against Randy Couture.