"I don't know many people who consider Remington 870's and Mosssberg 500 series shotguns top shelf. If they do it's only because they haven't been around real quality. "

I don't believe that anyone would consider the Rem 870 and the Mossberg 500 series as being "Top Shelf." But they are reliable and for the great majority of hunters they will check all the boxes at a relatively modest price. If they didn't, they wouldn't have lasted for so long.