My wife bought a m&p9c and a 4.25 core right after each was available and as nice as my 669 is these pistol show how QC has taken a dump at s&w . I spent far to much time and money make these pistols practicle for carry or matches but thanks to some polishing and apex both have good triggers and the CORE now shoots small groups instead of something that looks more like a 12ga 000 buck shot pattern . I have range swapped guns to shoot a new m&p full size and compact and I will not own a new 2.0 .

scarrywoody comment about - Gone are the gunsmiths that fitted each part to make the best pistol possible is spot on .

I have an old s&w 669 that I carry occasionally and its still a great pistol and as much as I really like how a m&p pistol feels in my hand we will not buy any more m&p's unless I find a nice used super cheap pistol as I know it will need parts and tuning just to make it like it should have been to begin with !!