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Old 10-12-2018, 03:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Hondo44 View Post
Mike,
You will find I frame .38 Terriers in these first four post war categories:

1. Transitional I frames c. 1946, leaf main spring w/strain screw on forestrap: These are "5 screw" models, 6 screws in total counting the strain screw: round sight, small trigger guard and short rd grip frame or rebated frame w/sq butt stocks, (all reportedly have new style hammer block). .22/32s and .32s beginning as low as 5346XX (Two in 521XXX range recorded as shipped in 1948 and 9/49, probably do not have the new style rebound slide operated hammer block reportedly begun at # 536,685), #544030 lowest observed; .38 S&W beginning c. 1948 at # 54475; as high as 582XX w/rd top stocks.

---- a) Pre war/post war trans.: uses pre war parts. (includes the non-Model #’d 1957 issue .32 Regulation Police Targets in the low #657XXX range). A few small guns were sold in the late '40s mostly made up from prewar parts. Actual .38 S&W production in volume didn't resume until about 1950, 54804 lowest and 58470 highest known shipped in July 1951.

---- b) Pure post war trans.: uses new post war parts. .32s (up to #550740 highest # known).

2. "Improved I frames" w/coil main spring: "5 screw" model, (the strain, 6th screw was eliminated), otherwise same features as the above Transitionals. Exception: late issues have ramp front sight and barrel rib. These are not pre models. No .22/32s made in this model, .32s (beginning at #554536, lowest # known shipped 12/51, #611398 highest known), .38s (highest round sight 70XXX [#68,XXX 2/53], lowest known ramp site 70131, 71983 shipped Jan. 12, 1954, highest known 738XX).

3. Model of 1953 New I Frames, (the true “Pre-Model #” guns), coil mainspring: These are "4 screw" & "3 screw" models, larger trigger guard (no screw), longer rd butt grip frame and new style sq butt. Bright blue finishes begin to appear c. 1956 and eventually predominate. .22/32s (beginning in new serial range starting w/#101), .32s (beginning at about #613XXX), .38s (a 4 screw, old hammer #7671X, 71983 shipped Jan. 12, 1954, 80627 highest known, a 3 screw).

4. Model #’d guns c.1957, otherwise identical to the Mod of 1953: 22/32 I frames Models 34 & 35 (beginning c. #37XXX), replaced by J frames Oct. 1960, -1 added (c. #70,XXX), the .32s and .38s in early 1961, -1 added (.32s Models 30 & 31 beginning c. #650XXX to #712954, highest # known, and .38s Models 32 & 33, c. #88XXX).


Recently there was a thread you may enjoy about terriers getting a 38 Spl cyl transplant for the very reason you bring up.

38/32 Terrier to 38spl conversion
I’m getting confused over the “5 screw” and “6 screw”. You mention in #1 above that the transitional had a leaf main spring with a strain screw in the forestrap. “These are 5 screw models and had 6 screws in total”. But then in #2. You say that “Improved I Frame” with coil main spring “5 screw” model, (the strain, 6 screw was eliminated)”. What! I thought that the only way to identify a leaf/flat main spring Terrier WAS the presence of a STRAIN SCREW which is the 5th screw not the 6th screw! Everything I’ve read, every auction site I’ve been to identies the flat or leaf main spring Terrier, which is the smallest.38 two inch made by S&W, by the presence of a strain screw located on the forestrap and this screw was called the 5th screw. Gun Broker advertises Terriers as “5 screw” and “Pre 32”. Where did this 6th screw come in?

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