45 GOOD FOR NOTHING? Don't even say it in jest. That is one cage you DO NOT want to rattle. I don't think anyone is saying it does not work, & well. Facts are facts, 16 beats 8, lighter wt ='s a person can carry more rounds, cheaper cost is a VERY REAL issue when arming 1,000's. Lower recoil meaning "many" can shoot it more accurately. I'm glad I only have to think about 1 person & I have 2-22's, 1-380, 2-38's, 2-357's, 1-9mm, 1-40, 1-45, AT THE MOMENT. MY 24/7 CC GUN is a 32, often/both CC is a 38 or 40, nightstand gun is (full sized) currently a 45, it was a 9mm for a LONG TIME???