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Old 03-28-2019, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Jimmy4570 View Post
Honestly, there needs be another iteration of the Thompson-LaGarde tests of 1904. There's no good reason why live tissue testing on bovines or swine- although GITMO detainees and death row inmates would be better- could not or should not be repeated today. That would be the only properly and objectively effective way to make a real determination as to true ballistic effectiveness of cartridge and projectile combinations in the modern era.
There is another way.

Nowadays, "ballistic effectiveness" has come to mean different things to different people. Many equate ballistic effectiveness to the size and shape, expansion or lack of expansion, of a projectile. That distracts us from what we really want to know; effect on the target (incapacitation). That is what should be measured.

Although often brought up, Thompson LaGarde tests were not very scientific.

But, in these times, we now have an opportunity to get closer to what actually happens. This is now possible because of the widespread use of police body cameras. Collect the caliber, load, medical reports etc. of every police video and we should be able to get a good estimate of the performance of the service cartridges.This would certainly beat the thousands of questionable anecdotes that feed the never ending debate on this topic.

This could answer the question of what the .45ACP is good for.
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