Found a neat one at the LGS today. It's a model 469, the original "shorty". Serial number is A862xxx, placing it in 1983, the first year of production, according to SCSW. I've been into the metal framed Smith autos for a while, but this is my first 2nd generation pistol. Couldn't resist for $200. No box, but did come with a spare mag. A couple of tiny rust spots on the slide, but cleaned up well. Runs and shoots great! Very accurate!