A couple months ago I got a Charles Daly Honcho in 410, it has the spring return (which you can remove the spring and it will function just fine) and is easy for small people to operate. It doesn't kick very much and can use all the new handgun 410 self defense loads that have come out lately. The bad thing is that apparently everybody is out except for 2 on Gun Broker for about $1000.00. Another bad point is that it is fun to shoot, I went threw a box of 000 buck before I realized it.