My experience was that the maker 5 years ago was dishonest. He noted his lead time to be 45 days, I let almost twice that pass before I requested the grip or a refund in the next 7 days, two weeks later my refund showed. A real waste of time and more importantly it showed a lack of professionalism and integrity on the makers end so that is just one experience you may want to consider before you pay up front which was the greater rub for me personally. Don’t take a mans money if you can’t deliver the goods, simple.