5BF1044A-D3E4-4C37-B8DD-F30945943511.jpgThis was my Ruger American at 400 yards shot off the daughters deck railing, no bag or comfortable chair. 1st 2 in center about 1” apart, 2nd 2 almost touching. Forget the scope but was a 8-20. Bought it from friend that needed $$$, had until I moved to Florida and no place to shoot so son got it. Had a Winchester Mdl. 70 in .270 back in 70-80’s with a 70’s Redfield “ ART” scope, would never group close to the 6.5 Creed. Tried every mfg. rounds in all available weights, even hand loads, still not close.