I got a Frankford Arsenal wet tumbler at the yaed sale Saturday. Had to buy it for 60 bucks . Fellow said he used it once and had trouble with expanders wanting to stick so never used it again. I got pins, separator, magnet, Lemishine and an extra 5 lbs of pins. So I'm going to use it on handgun cases. The idea of a rinse with auto polish is neat...but I spritz with spray on lube even using carbide dies