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Old 06-24-2013, 10:19 AM
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Sen. Feinstein Says All Our Veterans Are Mentally Ill And Can?t Own Guns // Mr. Conservative

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* Feinstein: All vets are mentally ill and government should prevent them from owning firearms Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

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Before the Senate Judiciary Committee last week Senator Diane Feinstein stated her belief that all veterans are mentally ill and the government should deny their access to firearms.

Somehow I managed to complete 2 tours in Vietnam (airborne infantry, combat infantryman badge, purple heart, etc), raise two sons to responsible citizenship (one is a veteran, by the way), serve 24 years as a cop (including nearly 7 years as a chief), run a couple of businesses successfully, pay off all of my bills, and save enough for a comfortable retirement. Now, after having gone to all that trouble, I find out that all this time I've been a mental incompetent!

I want a disability pension, back-dated 41 years, and a check delivered to my house by Senator Pelosi. Maybe while she's here she'll want to pick up my guns and ammunition (maybe I should just give her the ammunition? I'm not sure she is stable enough to have firearms).

Someone tell me if I'm just being too touchy here.
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You aren't too touchy, Ms Feinstein is the one who is mentally disturbed.
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You're not too touchy in any way, shape or form. Feinstein is way out of touch with reality and way out of line with her agenda. My gut feeling is that she's trying to leave some kind of distorted legacy for her own egotistical needs. She needs to be fired and relieved of duty.
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she is a democrat from califorinia...nuff said
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I will NOT say what I am thinking. This is a family-friendly board.

But I sure as hell want to.

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I feel your pain. I also served our country and it just burns my *** to hear this so called senator from Komifornia run down all of our vets. If we were to count on her kind we would all still be bowing to the queen!!
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You are missing the over arching theme....Senator Feinstein IS AN insult to America and needs to be unseated and moved to Barrow AK.
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These are the types of quotes and statements that will be brought up and used to the detrement of the Democrats that will try to run for office. Feinstein is at the end, and doesn't give a rats hoohaw about how she leaves her party in shambles.

I for one kinda dig it! You gotta find the positive and use it!

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Well, I can't say anything about Sen. Frankenstein that won't attract the attention of the big G'riller and his trusty crew but just what the H... makes these morons think veterans should have any sort of special privilege to own small arms that any other American can't? The loon that came up with that amendment needs a lesson in U.S. history.
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Her mere existence is an insult to all Americans.
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Ray, I agree wholeheartedly with what you are saying. However, I am on probation for crossing the political line. You Sir, are what America is all about and deserve no passage on the "ship of fools." And "Thank you" for your service to our country.
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Did she pass on the gene pool?
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You are missing the over arching theme....Senator Feinstein IS AN insult to America and needs to be unseated and moved to Barrow AK.
Well what are we waiting for? Let's vote her and her party the hell out of office.
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It's hardly surprising.

Some people you just know what to expect from them.

You expect racial slurs from Klansmen.
You expect defenses of child molestation from NAMBLA members.
You expect calls for beheading "infidels" from rabid Islamists.

Expecting hysterical hatred of legal gun owners from Feinstein is as unreasonable as expecting the sun to rise in the east and set in the west.

Just make sure you point it out to everybody who'll listen.
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I've never been to Barrow, Alaska, but just what has Barrow ever done to you? Why do you want to inflict this mental disease onto the good people of Barrow? Besides, I think she would be much happier in North Korea.
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I've never been to Barrow, Alaska, but just what has Barrow ever done to you? Why do you want to inflict this mental disease onto the good people of Barrow? Besides, I think she would be much happier in North Korea.
You are right, I'm ashamed now.......
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I hope that she and others of similar philosophy have the opportunity to enjoy a ride on the "Short Buses" of our system after the next election.
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Then we should make up a Foreign Legion , composed of illegal aliens and those in the Military should, wholesale, stop going into harms way, where the Gov sends them, to become mentally ill-PTSD
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I hope that she and others of similar philosophy have the opportunity to enjoy a ride on the "Short Buses" of our system after the next election.
Add that fellow from Utah to the list, and a few dozen others we all can think of, but the problem is, we keep wishing for this and it never happens. Maybe at some point all these beautiful people will get so frustrated with their inability to get us to drink from their troughs that they will retire, find life unbearable here in the U.S. that they could not shape in their own sickening imagine, and move to France, or another of our esteemed allies, where their views are more in keeping with the mainstream. We can only hope and pray.
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If all military members have mental problems, what about the ones in "harms way" now? do we take their weapons away in say Afgan.. because they might shoot someone? Or all our military bases here in the USA? I don't think so Senator. Wait a second haven't we in our 200+ years had Senators and even Presidents who were in the Military?? (well not lately and maybe that is part of the problem) Viet Nam was not fun for me either (5 week coma from bleeding too much) and coming back to being spit on and call baby killer was worse (in San Francisco where I was released from the Service)
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Lobo you must be a bit off. After all you did something nice for me because you thoughtI did something nice for retired guys. He'll maybe we are both nuts.
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Did I read the wrong quote? Or did you all only read the Alex Jones-ized version?

She didn't say every military member has PTSD. She says that PTSD is new, they didn't have it before the Iraq war, and that since a gun dealer can't tell if someone has PTSD she doesn't want to exempt veterans from an assault weapons bad because the Clinton one didn't and with this new-fangled PTSD thing veterans might be dangerous.

We're upset by this but for the wrong reasons.
1) She clearly has no idea what PTSD even is... Its not a military thing its a survivors of Trauma thing. Which mean that pretty much anyone who's survived a Trauma can have it.
2) Why the hell would a gun dealer even NEED to be a part of determining whether a buyer was a victim of PTSD? Shouldn't... you know... a doctor be involved with that?
3) Mental injuries/disorders that mean a person could be a threat to themselves or others should be a disqualifying event... but suggesting that servicemen and women are more likely to have it is asinine.

Clearly Ms. Feinstein, again, doesn't have any idea what she's talking about. And, THAT, is the real reason we should be cranked up about this, people should at least have a basic idea what they are talking about BEFORE they legislate on it... there should be some kind of test
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Senator Feinstein is a insult to the nation.
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Its a pattern-the mantra of those who despise the armed forces-After Vietnam it was vets are all on dope, they left babies in Vietnam, they divorce their wives (taking all the retired pay) they're uneducated (hence-all officers must have degrees) they kill babies, double dip, ad nauseam.
Now, its PTSD, they have too many benefits, they need to lose vet preference for jobs (or at least equalize it with everyone else) there is some kind of benefit to being in combat (?-wow) they shouldn't have Chaplains, and they go nuts and kill people. They have too many BCTs-even though we are still fighting-still deploying (I remember the horrible RIFs of the late '70s).
The percentage of citizens who serve is tiny-and who needs these "combat heroes" when you can have all the phony ones you need?

My son is on active duty-with three combat tours-my advice to him? For Gods sake stay with it-the soldiers need good leaders-Its all about duty, honor, country-taking care of your fellow troopers-It's a calling far above the character of Diane Fienstein.
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I believe, based on this newfangled disorder called Narcissism that we should ban all Senators from making laws... especially laws related to guns.
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Who does she think is the head of the military?
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I believe, based on this newfangled disorder called Narcissism that we should ban all Senators from making laws... especially laws related to guns.
"...consider reaching out to a trusted doctor or mental health provider. Getting the right treatment can help make your life more rewarding and enjoyable."

Seems like a good remedial course of action for some higher ups in the executive branch, also. Of course, then they will have a history of being treated for a mental disorder, and that would make them ineligible to own firearms under their own standards. I guess that shouldn't worry them, though. They all have armed bodyguards, not usually available to Joe and Josephine Schmoe. The privileged "ruling class" knows that the rules don't apply to them - they transcend such rules, because they are so special. Pardon me while I gag.

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Feinstein is out if control. Her as well as many of her cologues live in their own world. They are clueless as to what happens with normal folks on a daily basis. They are out of touch to say the least!
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Amen to that.....she and her ilk are the primary reason I fled LA in 80.....along with the ridiculous cost of living, taxes, housing, traffic, congestion, smog, fires, earthquakes, mudslides and the fact that the Left coast is one the largest open air insane asylums in the country.
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Kinda funny that the population sees its military family and friends as an asset and a protection while the Ms. F sees them as a threat to her agenda...
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Kinda funny that the population sees its military family and friends as an asset and a protection while the Ms. F sees them as a threat to her agenda...
Feinstein is part of the intelligence committee. She is a big supporter of the spying on the American people. The only thing keeping the government from overrunning its own people is the 2A which she wants to abolish.
She took an oath like soldiers but the difference is that the soldiers will defend the constitution against any enemy, foreign or domestic. So they are dangerous for a out of control government.

It sounds a little bit like tinfoil talk but looking back in history, isn't the U.S gov going down the same path other governments took before turning into tyrans ?
The U.S constitution is non negotiable!
And I am ashamed that we claim to be a democracy yet we have a secret court which has not to follow the standart legal procedures while determining behind closed doors how far the government can infringe on our constitutional rights.
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Well, I can't say anything about Sen. Frankenstein that won't attract the attention of the big G'riller and his trusty crew but just what the H... makes these morons think veterans should have any sort of special privilege to own small arms that any other American can't? The loon that came up with that amendment needs a lesson in U.S. history.
Combat veteran Iraq here... Not condoning any sort of special privileges for any one group. But what makes you think that a combat vet doesn't deserve any special privileges for serving and risking their lives for the very amendment we all love and cherish!!
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Combat veteran Iraq here... Not condoning any sort of special privileges for any one group. But what makes you think that a combat vet doesn't deserve any special privileges for serving and risking their lives for the very amendment we all love and cherish!!
Special rights? No. Privileges? Some, sure. I do not think you should be able to own firearms that we cannot own regardless of your your training or service. All the citizens in the U.S. are the militia but certain set of folks in this country think otherwise. Same goes for police officers.

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Since her and her ilk are trying to demonize firearms I think they are trying to also demonize those who've at some point used them in defense of our country!
It's real simple, we who serve, have served, or are serving would be the first on the line to defend the constitution from those who'd usurp it! And she knows this!
2016 can't get here soon enough for me, and its time we took our country back from these "dreamers"! Dale
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Did she pass on the gene pool?
No--just brain cells.
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It's hardly surprising.

Some people you just know what to expect from them.

You expect racial slurs from Klansmen.
You expect defenses of child molestation from NAMBLA members.
You expect calls for beheading "infidels" from rabid Islamists.

Expecting hysterical hatred of legal gun owners from Feinstein is as unreasonable as expecting the sun to rise in the east and set in the west.

Just make sure you point it out to everybody who'll listen.
Until two minutes ago I'd never heard of NAMBLA and had no idea what those initials meant. So, Bing! Look at results... Are you kidding me???? That's just... words fail me.

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Close. Not enough chlorine in hers.
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Did I read the wrong quote? Or did you all only read the Alex Jones-ized version?

She didn't say every military member has PTSD. She says that PTSD is new, they didn't have it before the Iraq war, and that since a gun dealer can't tell if someone has PTSD she doesn't want to exempt veterans from an assault weapons bad because the Clinton one didn't and with this new-fangled PTSD thing veterans might be dangerous.

We're upset by this but for the wrong reasons.
1) She clearly has no idea what PTSD even is... Its not a military thing its a survivors of Trauma thing. Which mean that pretty much anyone who's survived a Trauma can have it.
2) Why the hell would a gun dealer even NEED to be a part of determining whether a buyer was a victim of PTSD? Shouldn't... you know... a doctor be involved with that?
3) Mental injuries/disorders that mean a person could be a threat to themselves or others should be a disqualifying event... but suggesting that servicemen and women are more likely to have it is asinine.

Clearly Ms. Feinstein, again, doesn't have any idea what she's talking about. And, THAT, is the real reason we should be cranked up about this, people should at least have a basic idea what they are talking about BEFORE they legislate on it... there should be some kind of test
Apparently nobody read your version either.
snopes.com: Senator Dianne Feinstein: 'All Vets Are Mentally Ill'?

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The claim is a highly exaggerated paraphrase of her remarks"
As much as I dislike her views on guns, she ain't guilty of this. She didn't say it. She pointed out that some military vets have PTSD and an automatic exemption from a background check may not be a good move.

We really don't have to make up things for the good Senator to be guilty of. Her general ignorance about guns and her OCD like attacks indicate that she probably should be disarmed and not allowed near firearms.
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Apparently nobody read your version either.
snopes.com: Senator Dianne Feinstein: 'All Vets Are Mentally Ill'?


As much as I dislike her views on guns, she ain't guilty of this. She didn't say it. She pointed out that some military vets have PTSD and an automatic exemption from a background check may not be a good move.

We really don't have to make up things for the good Senator to be guilty of. Her general ignorance about guns and her OCD like attacks indicate that she probably should be disarmed and not allowed near firearms.
Yeah, I don't think she ever turned in her other .38 either! Dale
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