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kennyb 12-19-2012 02:18 PM

biden appointed
 
i see where biden has been appointed to head up the "gun control issue"....should be uhhhhhh interesting :cool:

Prof_Fate 12-19-2012 02:39 PM

Not good...
Joe Biden on Gun Control

It's not what one says, but what one DOES.

• Keep assault weapons ban; close gun show loophole. (Apr 2007)
• Voted NO on prohibiting lawsuits against gun manufacturers. (Jul 2005)
• Voted NO on banning lawsuits against gun manufacturers for gun violence. (Mar 2004)
• Voted YES on background checks at gun shows. (May 1999)
• Voted NO on more penalties for gun & drug violations. (May 1999)
• Voted NO on loosening license & background checks at gun shows. (May 1999)
• Voted NO on maintaining current law: guns sold without trigger locks. (Jul 1998)
• Rated F by the NRA, indicating a pro-gun control voting record. (Dec 2003)

Read more: Joe Biden on Gun Control - Joe Biden On the Issues - TIME #ixzz2FWaJ0lQk

trofty 12-19-2012 02:52 PM

And God help us!

David LaPell 12-19-2012 04:27 PM

I saw that press conference, and after watching Obama use those little kids to bait Boehner into tax hikes I wanted to throw something at the television. It made me sick. I will never call him by his title again, a real President, a real man, would not have said that.

I watched this press conference, and it made me sick to hear the President use those kids for political reasons...

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012...x-hikes-video/

Damocles 12-19-2012 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by David LaPell (Post 136868015)
I wanted to throw something at the television.

I stopped watching tv news all together for this very reason a few years ago. If I go into the living room and I see my wife watching tv, I go right out the door and back to my man-cave. I can't stomach it anymore. I just got a new tv and I don't want to have to smash it.

Vegetaman 12-19-2012 08:37 PM

I too have turned off the news. It's a ratings and sensationalism game -- and it seems to be a game to see which "commentators" can free associate about the world's problems more absurdly.

EvilBetty 12-20-2012 04:40 AM

It is sickening isn't it?

Maybe it's just getting older but I feel like when they lie and bend and skew now a days they either don't try, are not skilled at, or don't have the material to work with to create they story they are painting. It seems so blatant. And not a one of them is innocent of it. Every major news channel, show, site, and rag is guilty of it.

I remember enjoying watching a little news and then flipping over to one of the Discovery channels for a bit of interesting TV. But now those are even so filled with cheap reality TV, if it wasn't for my DVR I'd probably never turn it on anymore.

I wonder who their audience is. Who the hell stomachs watching all of this ****. And then goes into work the next day spewing and perpetuating it without being challenged or corrected. It's got to be working else they would't invest the time and money into producing all that trash.

forvols 12-20-2012 10:29 AM

2 Models of gun control/bans this commission will probably use:

UK has some of the most strict gun laws in the world, totally banned handgun ownership.
You can own "certain" shotguns small caliber rifles, by showing good reason and going through a stack of paper work. Interesting, in rural areas where gun owernship is highest - crime is also lowest per captia. So gun ban wasn' t enough UK also bans certain knives and pushed to ban more - ie long pointed kitchen knifes- because stabbings are way up in the UK. In the US certain knives are also illegal:



BBC NEWS | Health | Doctors' kitchen knives ban call



BBC NEWS | Business | eBay bans trade in knives in UK



UK GUN BAN enacted in 1997, some of the strictest gun laws in the world-- and the result a decade later:



BBC News | UK | Handgun crime 'up' despite ban



Culture of violence: Gun crime goes up by 89% in a decade | Mail Online



Australia gun ban (and confiscation-- called a buy back-- but go to jail if you did not comply, lot of ppl did not, SO now they are crimminals by the law, but were previously law abidding citizens) enacted in 1996-7--- and a decade or so later whats going on down under:



The Aussie Lesson: Less Guns, More Crime



Crime Up Down Under. Since Australia's Gun Ban, Armed Robberies Increase 45% // Current TV



But keep in mind any reports or statics you see, given the political side of this look who is talking the numbers. PRO or ANTI- whatever...stats can be/are manipulated. GUN FREE ZONES...What **** should be how about "law abidding citizens unable to defend themselves zones" crimminals do with us what you will....cause when seconds count the police are minutes away..



Bookworm Room * Factual weaponry for the stalwart foot soldiers fighting on behalf of the 2nd Amendment in the cause of Common Sense

zip777 12-20-2012 12:35 PM

I did some quick math the other day as it related to the Australian buy back - inflation and the number of firearms in the US. What cost the Australian GOV 500 million in 1997 would cost about 3.5 TRILLION now in the US. Not going to happen IMO.

Sebago Son 12-20-2012 01:09 PM

Everyone here should review the history of the enactment of the Gun Control Act of 1968 (AKA "Safe Streets and Crime Control Bill").

The opposition's tactics haven't changed, and we need to remember what worked and what didn't in our defense.

While written with a somewhat "left-bent-pen", this treatise is fairly accurate.

Gun Control Act of 1968 Study Guide & Homework Help - eNotes.com

At that time the NRA membership was only 900,000 and the US Population was 201,000,000. Today we have more than 4,300,000 NRA members against a population that may be as much as 313,000,000. Let's swell the ranks to 10,000,000.

There is strength in these numbers...We CAN push them back.

Drew

jtcarm 12-20-2012 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Prof_Fate (Post 136867841)
Not good...

It could be worse. They could have picked someone who's competent.;)

It sounds like nothing more than political posturing anyway: "See, we're doing something".

STCM(SW) 12-21-2012 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by kennyb (Post 136867808)
i see where biden has been appointed to head up the "gun control issue"....should be uhhhhhh interesting :cool:

Thats like putting Colonal Sanders in charge of egg laying chickens.... :(

7shooter 12-21-2012 03:17 AM

Time for a Mexican holiday for the VP and his pals.

The new gun control commission would profit from a week long fact finding stay in the Mexican border town of their choice. Mexico has some of the strictest gun control laws on the planet. The good people of Mexico are reduced to living in fear while the criminals have all the weapons that money can buy.


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