This is what happens when people (gun owners) don't get out and vote and the same anti gun politicians stay in office.
I just received this information that all New York Residents will be subject to:
Subject: From INSIDE the NY STATE Police IT Dept whistle blower.
IF YOU DON'T REALIZE IT BY NOW, I CAN NOT HELP YOU!!!!
THE SECRET SO CALLED "AMMO DATABASE" THAT WAS BORN OUT OF NY SAFE IS THE MOST DANGEROUS ASPECT OF NY SAFE.
From a whistleblower in the IT Dept in Albany.
The public has no idea how invasive this application is going to be, I work for NYS ITS but am not involved directly in the project, this is all "watercooler talk". Most of the details on the application are already public information (the safe act) which tells the story well enough on how it’s going to work.
When I tell you that you will NEVER want to buy ammo in New York again I am not kidding. I highly suggest you all read up on S 400.02 & 400.03 here
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Keep in mind what they list in the safe act is probably NOT the only information they are seeking out; you can be sure other personal avenues will be tied into the application based on how loosely the safe act was written. Now granted the same lurking eyes who will be running this already have access to this personal information (criminal record, warrants, mental health checks and record, etc), this is just going to be a convenient way to display a lot of all that information in one central location.
Again I am not breaking laws blowing a whistle, I am simply extending logic and common sense based on the parties involved who will be running this application and what is written in the safe act.
Sections to take note of: 400.02Line 19-23 (application can be used to revoke pistol permits and subsequently seize all firearms in the home)
Line 23-25 (if you have a pending permit application, they can look this up, see you have 10,000 rounds of ammo already purchased and use their “discretion” to say you have too much ammo in their eyes and if we give you this permit and gun you could go nuts with it all; denied application.
See the section on pistol permits and mental health in the safe act for more information on how wide the doors are made in regards to “discretion” now).
Line 28-33 (this can be used to deny or revoke applicants then seize any and all arms in the home. As in, you apply for a permit now, somehow get denied, they have the ability to now come and take all your long guns which they know you clearly have since they see you have purchase history as you keep buying ammo for them.
So in other words, the big buyers of ammo will undoubtedly be flagged, when a permit application comes up they might use their “discretion” to deny it then come confiscate. Or if you already have a permit, they will see the flag and start extending a search on your records to dig up something to revoke the permit and come confiscate everything.)
400.03 Line 49-56 & line 1 and 2 from the next page (Date, time, name, age, occupation (how they are getting this I have no idea), residence, the caliber, quantity, manufacture, serial number, or other identification marks such as microstamped casings {which can track a shooting event’s evidence right to the purchaser} all that will be recorded at the time of purchase.
Line 15-21 (must contact and provide ie. Submit for record, the NYS Database. This affirms the above that all the revealing information on the purchase is to be submitted and recorded.
Line 22, 23 & 33, 32 (all transactions are logged with a unique identifier)
Line 39-40 (Your purchase will be recorded and will be accessible by NYSP at any time, for one year. I have doubts they will actually time out and not be retained longer)
Line 46, 47 (NYSP can share this information with local police and sheriff’s)
Line 47-50 (just because they know you bought a ton of ammo they can’t use this to say you may have committed a crime, BUT if they have “other information” tending to prove you have/could have committed a crime this information WILL be used against you.)
Line 53-56, line 7-13 (Even if the system is down they can use NICS to OK the sale, but they still have to record the transaction and provide them to the NYSP in paper form.
So there you have it. That’s the cliffs notes to all this BS. I am sorry for the local businesses who will no longer be selling me any ammunition. I for one vow to never buy a single round ever again within the borders of NYS once this system is put into place. I hope you reading this do the same. They will never make it illegal to travel with your own personal property, so I will gladly send my money out of state to make my purchases. Please copy paste this entire message and send it all over the place. Get the word out so people aren’t blindsided by this when it’s put in place, and prove to the government attempting to control something they never will be able to do, that this is yet again another worthless initiative. FUAC
The link above is the amendments that were put in place, the full safe act is here:
S2230-2013 - NY Senate Open Legislation - Enacts the NY SAFE Act of 2013 - New York State Senate
Attention New York State Residents: SAFE ACT Ammo Restrictions
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