BREAKING: Idaho governor signs emergency legislation nullifying all future federal gu

[ISCS Yoda]

Is this correct or an Internet hoax? It's marvelous if it's true.

BREAKING: Idaho governor signs emergency legislation nullifying all future federal gun laws | Ben Swann Truth In Media

[JohnSW]

States can't nullify Federal Law, so any such legislation would be a stupid exercise in futility.

[luangtom]

The thought is there. The intent is there, but the possibility of it being feasible is doubtful. I suspect it would be a bit of a stretch to imagine a local LEO or deputy actually arresting any federal agent for enforcing federal law within their jurisdictions.

[Dennis The B]

The state could probably get away with refusing to support the Feds, but not actively resist the law. Right now, the ATF, FBI, etc., all rely on some type of working relationship with sheriffs, state, and local police. If a county sheriff were to tell his deputies not to assist on raids or arrests, there's not much any Federal agency can do, as long as there's no active resistance. However, the cooperation, or lack thereof, works both ways. The local law enforcement has access to all kinds of Federal data from the FBI, ATF, etc. What happens if the Feds turn off those taps?

However, the Feds do have the power of the commerce clause, and the courts have already established Federal primacy when it comes to gun manufacturing. It'd be an uphill fight to counter that.

[quneur]

I wouldn't necessarily put much stock in how much federal money a state gets considering Idaho workers pay federal taxes. There are also factors such as how much federal money goes into federal buildings in that particular state and how much funds needed for that agency. States like Idaho would have very little federal agencies/resources compared to a state like Florida or California. Hence, Idaho would save federal funds in that regard.

[ISCS Yoda]

Originally Posted by JohnSW

States can't nullify Federal Law, so any such legislation would be a stupid exercise in futility.

As a point of information, the words used are really all wrong. While states cannot nullify Federal law, quite obviously, refusing to enforce them for the Federal government, when the Federal government doesn't have the manpower to do it, renders the law a nullity.

On Thursday, Idaho Governor Butch Otter (R) signed a bill, which would effectively nullify future federal gun laws, by prohibiting state enforcement of any future federal act relating to personal firearms, a firearm accessories or ammunition

That's really all that Idaho accomplished, it passed a law that barred its local LEOs from enforcing Federal gun control laws. It doesn't stop the ATF from doing it!
***GRJ***

[LoboGunLeather]

Originally Posted by JohnSW

States can't nullify Federal Law, so any such legislation would be a stupid exercise in futility.

I disagree. Those states that have passed similar legislation are sending a powerful message to federal authorities, a message that needs to be delivered and repeated.

If memory serves, Idaho joins about 9 other states that have passed similar nullification legislation, thus these efforts might easily be described as a "movement" within the nation as a whole.

While NRA, GOA, SAF and other non-governmental entities that resist federal infringement of 2nd Amendment rights can easily be cast as special interest groups, radicals, and so forth, when a significant number of state governments join the chorus the music is more likely to be heard and understood.

Practical and workable, or stupid and futile, the message is important to send and important to repeat.

[Mule Packer]

Uh...are you sure this article is "BREAKING"? I mean, the date of the news article is March 22, 2014. That's almost a year ago.

There have been other states that have done something similar. The Utah Sheriffs' Association wrote a letter to President Obama in January 2013 stating that they will not enforce any federal laws that infringe upon 2nd Amendment rights. The letter itself is pretty powerful, stating that the Utah Sheriffs are willing to "trade our lives" for the protection of the traditional interpretation of the Constitution.
Proposed legislation asserts state power over gun control | fox13now.com

[Aticus]

Missouri passed such a law and, if memory serves, overrode the Governor's veto. The law doesn't nullify the Federal law but says that anyone attempting to enforce a Federal firearms law that is more restrictive that State law is subject to arrest and fines. This and most laws like it probably won't stand up to a court challenge but looks good on paper.

[Arik]

We had a similar problem here in Philadelphia but in reverse. State law says open carry is OK. Philadelphia city says it's not. You can get arrested in Philly for OC but in the end they can't charge you cause state laws allow for OC

[Beemer-mark]

Originally Posted by JohnSW

States can't nullify Federal Law, so any such legislation would be a stupid exercise in futility.

At least four states have passed bills legalizing (federal) criminal activity (marijuana use and distribution) so why do you think it's a stupid exercise in futility?

[sgtsandman]

There are a few States that have already passed laws saying Federal firearms laws are null and void in their States. Whether they will hold up in the long run is yet to be seen.

I'm not sure a Governor writing an executive order holds the same weight as a passed State law and I can't say one way or the other if the OP's link is valid or not.

[S&W SS Revolvers]

It concerns me just like the rest of the members regarding the 2nd.

With that being said I have been in gun stores , at a recent show , spoken with large and small business owners in the trucking industry
(31 years in the business here in Sucky ol' Denver) and simply put; if 1/2 of us resist we will win. Personally I hope it never has to happen...if it does God rest their souls.

I'll live free or die; God as my witness , that's a PROMISE and I haven't even had a traffic ticket in 15 years!

[wheelgunguy]

Originally Posted by Beemer-mark

At least four states have passed bills legalizing (federal) criminal activity (marijuana use and distribution) so why do you think it's a stupid exercise in futility?

No state has passed a law making marijuana legal. There are states where marijuana in not against state law. It is still against federal law. Big difference between not being against state law and being legal.

[J. R. WEEMS]

Hmmmm-- maybe we need to think back to 1861??? States have been known to stand by their rights-- Just saying-----

[wuluf]

Didja notice it passed both houses UNANIMOUSLY? I love Idaho..

sent from my phone 'cause I'm too lazy to walk to the laptop..

[oneflycowboy]

This has been tried before and has failed. It was tried in Kansas and Montana. The outcome was the same each time.

Kansas Gov. Insists it?s OK to Ignore Federal Gun Laws - ProPublica

OSAWATOMIE — A portion of Kansas’ latest gun law has been ruled null and void following a decision by the Ninth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals on Friday.
While the three-judge panel ruled on a piece of Montana legislation, it shares similar characteristics to a bill passed by Kansas officials and signed into law by Gov. Sam Brownback earlier this year. SB 102, better known as the Second Amendment Protection Act, shields firearms manufactured and owners in Kansas from federal regulations, restrictions and licensure.
The court ruled that Gary Marbut, of Montana, could not lawfully skirt national firearms law by selling a .22 caliber rifle of his own design – dubbed the “Montana Buckaroo” and emblazoned with the words “Made in Montana” – even if the gun is only sold within state borders. The court asserts that federal law pre-empts the state legislation.
Judge: Federal restrictions override Kansas gun law « Watchdog.org