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What they need to do, is tell that to the street thugs of chicago.
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I think most of us care and the ones who don't care now may care later. It is a tough choice. Chicago is pretty much a lost cause, but I don't want to see the ban ignored because then it will spread like a disease, but I worry every time the Supreme Court is asked to revisit gun control issues.
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11-21-2015, 07:25 PM
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Highland Park is a ritsy shmitsy SUBURB N.W. of Chicago. It is full of snooty ultra liberals that don't care in the least about the rights of we the unwashed proletariat. The council of their kingdom recently upheld their AW ban. If a ban on Holland & Holland doubles comes to pass, owners of said rifles would ride their polo ponies in a protest parade. Weather permitting.
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11-22-2015, 01:32 PM
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but I worry every time the Supreme Court is asked to revisit gun control issues.
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I do as well, but better the current court which has been relatively gun friendly than a future court with more Obama, or God forbid Clinton appointees.
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11-22-2015, 03:05 PM
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The Supreme Court docket says it's "DISTRIBUTED for Conference" as of November 16th. What this means is it still sits in the pool of submitted petitions and is, for the time being, deemed worthy of further discussion. (N.B. Petitions that aren't discussed automatically get placed in the "circular file.")
Keep in mind that realistically, the Supremes grant cert to very, very few petitions, so rejoice if they do decide to hear the case.
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11-23-2015, 12:10 AM
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This is a serious ban in a small city.
It goes after almost all semi-auto rifles that accept a magazine, including the mini-14.
If Supreme Court does not take the case it will encourage bans in many jurisdictions.
If Supreme Court takes the case and does not overturn, goodbye semi auto rifles with next anti gun Congress.
It is a distinct possibility that the Supreme Court will not overturn
On the other hand, the five who gave us Heller might take it because they believe that the People do have a right to a semi auto rifle
Scotus Blog link to the petition at Supreme Court is here
Friedman v. City of Highland Park : SCOTUSblog
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I thought that the "average white band" was coming back.
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11-23-2015, 03:49 PM
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This case is not on the Supreme Court's docket for 2015.
Arguments which will be on the docket for 2016 have not been published yet.
So anything the media says or writes about this...stuff that talks about "maybe" and "might hear arguments in the case"...is just speculation and a waste of time.
Matter of fact, there are no firearms-related cases or arguments scheduled to go before the Supreme Court any time in the foreseeable future.
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Watch Dog....ya done took all the the fun out of it.
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No new cases from the November 24 Conference.
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As of today, the Supreme Court has refused to hear the appeal regarding the Highland Park ban on assault weapons and high-capacity magazines.
The appeal was brought against Highland Park by Dr. Arie Friedman and the Illinois State Rifle Association.
What this means, basically, is that as of now, the Supreme Court will not disagree with the idea that local governments (cities, counties) can pass laws or ordinances regarding which kinds of guns will or will not be allowed within the areas covered by those local governments.
Now, what may come from this in the future is anyone's guess.
So, the bottom line for this right now is that this is not good news.
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This is indeed not good news, but the devil is in the details. We're not told why the Supremes decided to deny cert. All we know is that Justices Thomas and Scalia dissented.
In any case, I don't think Highland Park's ban is now permanent. It just means that it stands until a better case is presented to the Supreme Court. I do, however, expect their denial of cert to Friedman emboldening antis and fueling a push for similar state and local restrictions. Be wary.
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So it's ok for individual states to restrict the 2A, but not ok for them to place restrictions on some "rights" not clearly written in the Constitution........some of them amongst the banned topics on this forum.
Now it's all becoming quite clear.
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12-08-2015, 01:42 PM
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Petition for certiorari denied today
My prediction is that New Jersey and California will pass something like this soon.
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Between about '91 and 2005 I had several AR's and AK's, and a lone M1 carbine. My collection took a different direction and there all gone now. In January I believe I'll by an AR pistol and as many mags and ammo for it as I can afford. I don't care if I ever shoot it.
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In PA, we have preemption which prevents places like Philly from enacting its own anti-gun laws. Also the right to bear arms is specifically mentioned in the Pennsylvania Constitution. Our state constitution is written slightly clearer than the US Constitution (although I think there is nothing to be confused about with the US Constitution's 2nd Amendment). Our state constitution says:
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The right of the citizens to bear arms in defence of themselves and the State shall not be questioned.
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