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A citizen of the town of Lexington MA has put an article on the spring town meeting to ban the possession of any semi-auto that will "accept" a magazine holding "10 or more rounds" as well as banning all mags that hold "10 or more rounds"
GOAL the watchdog in Mass sent out an email blast alerting people of this. I can't find the link.

The person says this will not affect ordinary gun owners, as it only bans Semi-auto rifles, handguns and shotguns and magazines that can take 10 rounds.

This is the town that helped start our democracy!

In reading the blog for the town reps in Lexington most of them are in favor of this.

Robert Rotberg pushes for ban on assault weapons in hometown of Lexington - News - Lexington Minuteman - Lexington, MA
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I would say fill the town meeting with as many gun owners as can be found and demonstrate they are against any laws limiting magazines over 10 rds ..

have them search for and watch the YouTube video "Sherriff's demo of how magazine size makes very little difference" ..

I, myself was very surprised by the results !!

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The town meeting is a "representative town meeting" citizens can go but cannot speak unless recognized by the speaker or given a chance by a rep. That is why I ran and continue to run for town meeting rep in my town so I cannot be stifled and can say my piece.
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If signs are allowed no need to speak .. If they aren't allowed inside get a permit to protest, picket what ever it is called on the outside of the building !! and make sure the news papers and TV are given a heads up on the protest .. and not the TV in your town many times they won't rock the boat ..


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That is why it's so important to make sure your state has a state preemptive gun law so you don't have city councils passing their own gun laws creating a patchwork of draconian gun control measures that impede residents gun rights.
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A citizen of the town of Lexington MA has put an article on the spring town meeting to ban the possession of any semi-auto that will "accept" a magazine holding "10 or more rounds" as well as banning all mags that hold "10 or more rounds"
I don't live in Massachusetts (thank goodness), so I don't understand this.

Is "Town Meeting" a type of city government? Or a type of governing body for a city or town? This sounds like someone putting an item on an agenda for discussion, is that right?

What does someone have to do to become the "Speaker" of Town Meeting? Is this an elected position? If so, elected by whom? Are there others like council members or something?

Can just anyone come along and suggest something for the Town Meeting to discuss or act on?

Rotberg refers to this as an "amendment". An amendment to what? Is this something residents vote on?

Any Massachusetts resident want to explain this system to me? I'd appreciate it. Seriously, how does this work?
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Believe it or not, Town meetings are still a common way in MA where citizens get together and do a yea or nea vote on any item that makes it onto the town agenda. ( Usually, it only takes from 10 to 200 signatures for a Citizens Petition to get you on the agenda.) They can get pretty crazy as turn out is usually only a few hundred passionate residents looking to make /resist changes for the remaining 30,000 or so residents (who don't bother to come vote.) Most towns have these type of meetings written into their constitutions from hundreds of years ago when the towns were incorporated .( Read: 1600s through 1700's) Clearly, they were meant for the days when there might be a hundred or two people in a town. Most are held in school gyms or the like that won't hold more than a few hundred.

In this case, it is sad that one of the towns known for resisting gun confiscation from the British, is considering a vote to toss those hard won rights away. MA already has some of the toughest (and silliest) laws on mags and "assault weapons" in existence in the US. ( The national assault weapons ban, never went away in MA.)Gun Owners Action League (GOAL) of Ma is mobilizing it's members for the grass roots fight.My bet is that this gets defeated as the town does not want to spend huge chunks of tax's fighting law suits.

That said, if MA leaned any more to the left, it would fall over :-(
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Believe it or not, Town meetings are still a common way in MA where citizens get together and do a yea or nea vote on any item that makes it onto the town agenda.
Thanks for that information, but who is in charge of these meetings? And how did they get to be in charge? Do any elected officials run these shows? I know Massachusetts is a Commonwealth (like Virginia), so things are somewhat different, but still, I don't understand how this works.

If a petition is brought before the Town Meeting and is agreed upon, does it then go up for a vote by all town residents, or does it become like a law or ordinance simply because x-number of people want it to be?
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First you have to run to be elected as a Town Meeting Rep, the position of Speaker or Moderator is also an elected position.
Some things like overrides (MA law says you can only raise property taxes 2 1/2 % without an override) are sent to the public for a vote but a article to ban guns would be only voted on by the town reps, so about 150 people decide for the rest of the town. If it passes usually with a simple majority it becomes law.
Other towns (not Lexington) have "open" town meetings where anyone can go and have a say and a vote.

One year our town meeting voted to eliminate all war, seriously.

If this passes in one town expect to see it in others.
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Lexington is right next to Concord where they recently banned 20 ounce plastic water bottles but still allow 2 gallon plastic water jugs and 20 ounce soda bottles and cans, just not the evil "single serving" water bottles.

One lady pushed for it got it on the town meeting agenda and the moonbats voted it in.

The only thing that will stop this gun ban is not signs or protests, but showing the town how much it will cost in law suits. Moonbats love their money even more than their left wing politics.
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A citizen of the town of Lexington MA has put an article on the spring town meeting to ban the possession of any semi-auto that will "accept" a magazine holding "10 or more rounds" as well as banning all mags that hold "10 or more rounds"
GOAL the watchdog in Mass sent out an email blast alerting people of this. I can't find the link.

The person says this will not affect ordinary gun owners, as it only bans Semi-auto rifles, handguns and shotguns and magazines that can take 10 rounds.

This is the town that helped start our democracy!

In reading the blog for the town reps in Lexington most of them are in favor of this.

Robert Rotberg pushes for ban on assault weapons in hometown of Lexington - News - Lexington Minuteman - Lexington, MA
That state is turning into a lost cause. About ten years ago, a friend of mine who lived in Oxford, said that a museum or like place, had hundreds of muskets and various rifles from the civil war and before, had their barrels filled with lead....instead of selling them off. That town hall needs to be filled with folks who: Will Not Comply.

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First you have to run to be elected as a Town Meeting Rep, the position of Speaker or Moderator is also an elected position.
Some things like overrides (MA law says you can only raise property taxes 2 1/2 % without an override) are sent to the public for a vote but a article to ban guns would be only voted on by the town reps, so about 150 people decide for the rest of the town. If it passes usually with a simple majority it becomes law.
Other towns (not Lexington) have "open" town meetings where anyone can go and have a say and a vote.

One year our town meeting voted to eliminate all war, seriously.

If this passes in one town expect to see it in others.
I stand corrected. That state IS a lost cause.
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Thanks for that information, but who is in charge of these meetings? And how did they get to be in charge? Do any elected officials run these shows? I know Massachusetts is a Commonwealth (like Virginia), so things are somewhat different, but still, I don't understand how this works.

If a petition is brought before the Town Meeting and is agreed upon, does it then go up for a vote by all town residents, or does it become like a law or ordinance simply because x-number of people want it to be?
Town officials moderate the meeting to a strict set of meeting standards that are set in stone and monitored at state level. While there is (organized and moderated) debate the night of the meeting, much of it is done via campaigning /letter to the editor in the local media for months before the meeting.
That would be answer two, There is no follow on / second chance vote by the thousands of residents who don't show up. The vote of the night is binding (unless someone challenges it in court due to botched procedure, etc.) You either show up to speak and/or vote or let the few that do make the decision for you. :-(

Hell of a process, Democracy!
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May be time for a little Civil Disobedience!
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Not worth the effort...Beacon Hill is so bought and paid for it's a lesson in futility to raise an issue based on common sense... ...to prove this point , the last 3 speakers of the MA House were/are in jail for taking bribes or outright extortion . Something to be proud of from the Cradle of Democracy...
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I read through the link, but didn't see what the penalty would be for violating this town's potential ban, or what the class of violation would be (felony, misdemeanor, infraction, etc.) . . .
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From what I can see it would be a penalty of $50 per violation, if you have a bunch of 10 round magazines that could add up quick.
Although the worst part is that you most likely would lose your LTC, License to Carry (which in Mass regardless of the name doesn't mean you can carry, it means you can have a firearm, or empty shell case or powder and only with the express permission of the Chief of Police are you actually allowed to carry, don't question it, it is Massastupid)

From what I understand ALL 10 round and larger magazines would be banned not just those that fit "assault weapons".

DESCRIPTION: This article would prohibit the manufacture, sale, ownership, or
possession of assault weapons and high capacity ammunition magazines in the Town of
Lexington. An assault weapon is defined in several very technical ways, but many
repeating rifles and shotguns, and all machine guns, would be banned together with
magazines holding ten or more cartridges.
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Just got the actual text of the bill

The penalty will be $1000 per violation and the Police are authorized to "seize and destroy guns" so they can kick down your door and take your guns and no grandfathering except for pre 1899 guns.
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Here is the text of the bill. It says "one or more features" not two as in Mass AWB law. They want Revolvers and bolt actions only. Also the "ability to accept a magazine holding more than 10 rounds" even 1911's can get greater than 10 rounders for them.

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To see if the Town will vote to amend Ch 97 of the Code of the Town of Lexington (Public Conduct) by adding a new section regulating the manufacture, sale, and possession of firearms within the Town, or act in any other manner in relation thereto.
Whereas assault weapons are not traditionally used for self-defense in the Town of Lexington, and whereas assault weapons pose an undue threat to public safety to property owners, residents, visitors, and law enforcement personnel within the Town of Lexington, this amendment to Ch. 97 prohibits the manufacture, sale, ownership, or possession of assault weapons and large capacity ammunition magazines within the Town of Lexington.
1) Assault weapon means
a) A semiautomatic rifle that has the capacity to accept a large, detachable, magazine and one or more of the following properties:
• Only a pistol grip without a stock attached
• Any feature capable of functioning as a protruding grip that can be held by the non-trigger hand
• A folding, telescoping, or thumbhole stock
• A shroud attached to the barrel that partially or completely encircles the barrel, allowing the shooter to hold the firearm with the non-trigger hand
• A muzzle brake or muzzle compensator

b) A semi-automatic pistol or any semi-automatic rifle that has a fixed magazine and the capacity to accept more than ten (10) rounds of ammunition.

c) A semi-automatic pistol that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and has one or more of the following properties:

• Any feature capable of functioning as a protruding grip that can be held by the non-trigger hand.
• A folding, telescoping, or thumbhole stock
• A shroud attached to the barrel that partially or completely encircles the barrel and that allows the bearer to hold the firearm with the non-trigger hand
• A muzzle brake or muzzle compensator
• The capacity to accept a detachable magazine outside of the pistol grip

d) A semiautomatic shotgun that has one or more the following properties:
• Only a pistol grip without a stock attached
• Any feature capable of functioning as a protruding grip that can be held by the non-trigger hand
• A folding, telescoping, or thumbhole stock
• A fixed magazine capacity in excess of five rounds
• An ability to accept a detachable magazine

e) Any shotgun with a revolving cylinder

f) Any conversion kit, part, or combination of parts from which an assault weapon can be assembled

g) The above prohibitions shall include, but not be limited to, the following assault weapon models:

• AK, AKM, AKS, AK-47, ARM, MAK90, MISR, NHM 90, NHM 91,SA 85, SA 93, VEPR
• AR-10
• AR-15, BUSHMASTER XM 15, ARMALITE M15, OLYMPIC ARMS PCR
• AR 70
• CALICO LIBERTY
• DRAGUNOV SVD SNIPER RIFLE, DRAGUNOV SVU
• FABRIQUE NATIONAL FN/FAL, FN/LAR, FNC
• HI-POINT CARBINE
• HK-91, HK 93, HK 94, HK PSG 1
• KEL-TEC SUB RIFLE
• SAIGA
• SAR 8, SAR 4800
• SKS with detachable magazine
• SLG 95
• SLR 95, SLR 96
• STEYR AUG
• STURM, RUGER MINI-14
• TAVOR
• THOMPSON 1927, THOMPSON M1, THOMPSON 1927 Commando
• UZI, GALIL, UZI SPORTER, GALIL SPORTER, GALIL SNIPER RIFLE (GALATZ)


And the following pistols, copies, or duplicates

• Calico M10
• MAC 10, MAC 11, MPA3
• OLYMPIC OA
• TEC 9, TEC d9, TEC 22 SCORPION, AB 10
• UZI

And the following shotguns, copies, or duplicates

• Armscor 30 BG
• SPAS 12, LAW 12
• STRIKER 12
• STREETSWEEPER

h) Assault weapon does not include any firearm that has been made permanently inoperable, or that satisfies the definition of an antique firearm (that is, manufactured before 1899)

i) Detachable magazine means any ammunition feeding device, the function of which is to deliver one or more ammunition cartridges into a firing chamber and which can be removed from the firearm without the use of any tool or kind of tool, including a bullet or an ammunition cartridge

j) Large capacity magazine means any ammunition feeding device with the capacity to accept more than ten (10) rounds, but excluding a 22 caliber tube feeding device and a tubular magazine that is contained in a lever-action firearm

k) Muzzle brake means a device attached to the muzzle of a weapon so that it utilizes escaping gases to reduce recoil

l) Muzzle compensator means a device attached to the muzzle of a weapon so that it utilizes escaping gases to control muzzle movement

2) These prohibitions against the manufacture, sale, ownership, and possession of assault weapons and high-capacity magazines within the Town of Lexington shall not apply to

a) Law enforcement officers or members of the armed forces of the United States acting within the scope of official duties

3) Any weapons or magazines deemed illegal in accord with this amended by-law within the Town of Lexington shall be seized and destroyed by the police of the Town of Lexington

4) The violation of this by-law is a misdemeanor, punishable by a fine of $1000

5) This amended by-law shall be in full force and effect from and after its passage, approval, and publication in the manner provided by Town by-laws and State regulations.
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Unfortunatly the only ones who can vote in town elections are residents. But that is why I ran and won a seat on my hometown Town Meeting.

If something like this comes up the moderator can stop the general public from speaking but not the Town Meeting members. So I can have my say.
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You should read the rantings of the proposer on this, he even uses his Harvard.edu account. He is a whack job

He says we have to get "mass killing weapons off our streets" is he talking about cars or guns?

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Been studying on this for awhile now. Only thing I can come up with is a history lesson for the nay-sayers. An order to "lay down your arms" has already failed once. Can't discount the common people.
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I think this is to prevent another mass shooting in Lexington MA. There was a mass shooting using multiple military assault weapons and they don't want it to happen again.

In case you missed it, and it was in all the papers, it was on the town common and a bunch of guys wearing red with military assault weapons shot and killed multiple towns people. it was in 1775.
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We are trying to fight this, GOAL is spreading the alarm.

I am not sure about preemption in Mass, if this passes and other towns pass even stricter laws such as banning handguns, this state will be a patchwork of local laws.
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Our state laws preempt all local laws. The only places off limits are local government buildings so posted, schools and grounds but you can have your weapon in vehicle when picking up children or left in locked vehicle if you have to go in. City parks only when school activities are taking place, or an event that charges admission. And private business' when posted, but there is a bill in the State House to make the owners of such business liable for your safety. Class III firearms are legal with proper federal license. The Barrett .50 cal. sniper rifle is our state rifle, also a factory here. Even gangbangers are pretty much contained enough that shooting each other is about all they got left. Pretty nice here, I love my town and State. Would not want to live anywhere else.
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you guys in the anti-gun states are really just second class citizens ...There is no job, no home, no mortgage that would make me live under that kind of tyranny.... you have my sympathies.
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Contact the City Attorney. Point out to him or her the Maryland decision. Politely explain that the proposed ordinance is, as worded a ban on all semi-automatic firearms that accept a detachable magazine, as such a weapon WILL accept a magazine which contains more than 10 rounds. While I know of no one making a 15 round magazine for a Raven .25 auto, the gun will accept a properly made 15 round mag. Perhaps the city attorney and/or a law enforcement administrator (Chief of Police, Sheriff, State Police administrator, etc.) could convince the town spokespeople that the ordinance is likely to be struck down by federal courts, and cost the town a great deal of money in the process.
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Liberals , of which MA has an over-abundance , are a form of cancer to those with common sense . I KNOW what I want/need for myself and my family , I'm willing to work for those needs and promise not to infringe on or hurt anyone else in this process . Why is it a liberal insists they know what's best for me and my family and will punish me in order to force their will upon me ? I can only be pushed so far and I'm guessing ( ) most everyone here is of the same thought...can't wait for November to see if I'm right...
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I have reached out to GOAL with the fact that this is a wide reaching ban, as they have contacts with the Mass Attorney General and I assume the Lexington Atty and certainly will have more say than someone like me who is not a resident of the town. However I will forward your thoughts along.

I have found where my towns selectmen's meeting agendas are posted and will watch it as part of my daily routine in case any anti gun stuff is scheduled.
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Liberals , of which MA has an over-abundance , are a form of cancer to those with common sense . I KNOW what I want/need for myself and my family , I'm willing to work for those needs and promise not to infringe on or hurt anyone else in this process . Why is it a liberal insists they know what's best for me and my family and will punish me in order to force their will upon me ? I can only be pushed so far and I'm guessing ( ) most everyone here is of the same thought...can't wait for November to see if I'm right...
If a conservative doesn't like meat they won't eat it, if a liberal doesn't like meat they try to make everyone a vegan
If a conservative doesn't like guns they don't buy one, if a liberal doesn't like guns they try to ban them
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Didn't you guys have the original Tea Party up there a long while back?

Just sayin'

I'd rent a UHaul and point me toward 95 South.

Good luck up there!
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I guess they are trying to stop another mass shooting in Lexington.

You remember hearing about the last mass shooting in Lexington, many men where shot down on the town common by a bunch of guys in red coats, it was 1775
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That town hall needs to be filled with folks who: Will Not Comply.
Yes sir, a little Irish Democracy goes a long way.
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You can fill the town meeting but with representative town meeting you will not know which side they support unless they wear NRA shirts or hats, as the residents are not allowed to talk only the elected representatives, which is why I ran in my town.
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Hmm, I have to believe the criminal population will unanimously agree that Lexington should be a pretty safe place to ply their trade if this goes through...

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Hmm, I have to believe the criminal population will unanimously agree that Lexington should be a pretty safe place to ply their trade if this goes through...
No, that would never happen because this latest law will be the one they obey!

I have decided on one of the tacks I will take if this comes to my local town meeting, I will stand up and simply ask the town meeting reps, "how many of you have ever used illegal drugs, marijuana or anything that is illegal by the Federal government?, hold up your hands. Drugs were banned in the 1930's but you still broke the law and used them or smoked a joint. If you as a law abiding citizen don't mind breaking the law, why do you think criminals will be afraid to break this law?"

Most will be afraid to hold up their hands but plenty have done grass and they will know it.
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I'm probably going to be writing about this, for Examiner, TheGunMag.com and Conservative Firing Line.
Ben Cartwright...can you supply me with a link to the proposal? It's got to be online somewhere.
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Here is one site fighting it with a link to the article

Article 34 – Lexington for Liberty

also here is the town warrant with the article

http://www.lexingtonma.gov/sites/lex...ts-final_1.pdf

http://www.lexingtonma.gov/sites/lex...ts-final_1.pdf
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Keep in mind that this is a State the intends to re-introduce the Eastern Diamond Back rattler to a "deserted" island in Quabbin reservoir!
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Also the last 3 speakers of the house were indited and the current one is an un-indited co-conspirator.

In 1976 they tried to ban all handguns, that gave birth to GOAL who helped defeat the bill.
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No offense Ben, but this attitude toward firearms in your state, (and the Northeast in general), didn't just happen last night. Seems like the majority of the population are OK with the way things have gone and are going. I wish you luck, you've got a big hill to climb.
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No offense Ben, but this attitude toward firearms in your state, (and the Northeast in general), didn't just happen last night. Seems like the majority of the population are OK with the way things have gone and are going. I wish you luck, you've got a big hill to climb.
I agree, we have been fighting it for years. Back in 1976 while I was still in the Navy, Mass had a ballot question to ban all handguns for everyone, it led to the formation of GOAL (Gun Owners Action League) and was defeated, but not overwhelmingly. This is the state that loves Kerry, Warren, and Clinton and will vote for Sanders today.

I have been working with my state senator to try to bring some sense to the laws but it is an uphill battle.

For example, in Mass a 17 year old can get a Firearms Identification Card and can take an M1 Garand to the range by themselves, but it is illegal for them to even hold a BB gun, even in their own yard without someone over 21 next to them.

Oh and slingshots are illegal too.
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After they get rid of the guns they don't like, they'll work towards getting rid of the speech they don't like. And the beat goes on ...
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Both Sanders and Clinton have said they want to overturn Citizen's United, so much for the 1st Amendment.

Also they would overturn the law protecting gun makers.
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Last night Lexington had it's selectmens meeting to discuss and vote on this article before sending it to Town Meeting. Many people including the Chief of Police stood to stand against it. The board said the state of Mass, with some of the toughest gun laws in the country, need even stricter gun control but not at the town level. Now it goes to Town Meeting but if the selectmen are 5-0 in opposition to this, it would take alot to pass it.

from the GOAL facebook page regarding this

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ICYMI, tonight was a great first step towards defeating Article 34, Lexington's proposed firearms ban. Lexington citizens were joined by neighbors from surrounding towns, one after another they spoke out against Article 34 and any attempt at infringing our natural rights. When the last person had given testimony, Lexington's Chief Corr joined with the citizens and spoke out against the article. Next, the board of selectmen asked Mr. Rotberg what he would like to do, if he would like to continue to submit the article as a bylaw amendment, or as a resolution. Interestingly enough, Mr. Rotberg chose to put the onus on the selectmen, so they spoke out. One after another they refused to support Article 34 as a bylaw amendment. They followed this by refusing to support Article 34 as a resolution.

Article 34 was handed a resounding defeat tonight. But it's not over.

On April 6th, Lexington residents and town meeting members will gather again at the annual town meeting, where they will vote once and for all.

The work is not over yet, and we must remain vigilant, until the final vote is cast.

Thank you to everyone who took the time to support our Bill Of Rights tonight in Lexington.

Captain Parker would be proud. As are we.
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There's one new comment on the Lexington TMM forum that captures the writer's learning process about firearms and the proposed bylaw in a very insightful way.

Several people have admitted that they don't understand guns and the differences between scary guns and those that are "ok"

of course they say they need to meet how to discuss how to end gun violence. Maybe at least some are realizing that like in Chicago, banning doesn't work.
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Longmeadow Mass has jumped on the bandwagon, they are looking to ban all "assault" weapons with no grandfathering also ban concealed carry, or even cased carry on town owned property including the sidewalk in front of your house,
But even worse

One of the bills in Longmeadow is the requirement to register all your guns with the local police department when you renew your license.

Since we already have to register at the time of purchase (some will say it is registration of the sale but if you look at the website for the eFA10 it no longer pretends it is not sale registration as it says on the form “Firearm Registration” )
How is this even legal?

Also how will they tell you are telling the truth unless they start home inspections, either with warrants or by asking and if you refuse you will be flagged as unsuitable to have a license and you will lose your license and your guns.
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