"Assault weapons" to be banned in Michigan?

[Backlighting]

New legislation introduced by Michigan Democrats seeks to make it a felony to own weapons defined as assault weapons. It includes rifles, semi auto pistols & certain shotguns:
House bill seeks to make owning an ‘assault weapon’ a felony | Fox17

[ParadiseRoad]

...pump action...welcome to Australia...November 9...Michigan may be one of fifty...

[s&wchad]

This bill will never make it out of Committee, but it's best to contact your Representative and express your opinion.

This is from the linked article:

The bill defines an assault weapon as a semiautomatic pistol or semiautomatic or pump-action rifle capable of using detachable magazines, trigger pistol grips, shoulder stocks, barrel shrouds, muzzle brakes or commentators, and shotguns with detachable magazines or revolving cylinders.

House bill seeks to make owning an ‘assault weapon’ a felony | Fox17

That's quite a bill. I don't know what a "trigger pistol grips" is, but I do know what a "commentator" is and most of them disgust me!

[BB57]

Bans and attempted bans are always interesting - and usually totally counter productive to the anti-gun cause, given the effect they have on sales whether the bill passes or not.

The AWB in 1994 did more than any other single act to popularize "assault weapons". Once they were banned, it went from a small niche market to something a lot of shooters wanted, with or without the "evil features" that defined them under the 1994 AWB.

After 2004 when the AWB expired, shooters wanted them even more, and at several points leading up to or following various elections or in the wake of various mass shootings when legislation has been proposed, sales have soared.

Oddly, if no one had ever bothered to popularize them by banning them, I suspect more than half the number we have in the US now would have never been manufactured.

The NRA largely sold the fairly small EBR membership down the river in 1994, rolling over on the AWB in exchange for some promised protections of hunting rights on public lands for the larger Elmer Fudd membership. Ironically however, if you step foot on the NRA headquarters range, you'll be hard pressed to even see a traditional bolt action hunting rifle, and the evil black rifles will out number all the other long arms by about a 4 to 1 margin. Same with high capacity semi-auto pistols - revolvers are a rarity.

Things have changed and "assault weapons" are quite often purchased by people you would not suspect would buy one.

Here's case in point. I have to do a two day tour of duty in DC every other week (unless I can schedule my evaluation team to be in the field, plan vacation, speak at a conference, etc, during a DC week). I take the train to and from NC and there are some regulars on the train that have similar schedules.

Given the recent flood in NC, I asked one of the regulars who also lives in NC, a mild and petite lady maybe 65 years old ,how she fared during the flood. One thing led to another and she expressed that she had a S&W 686+ by her bed, a Model 36 by the back door and an unspecified .40 S&W by the front door. She indicated that her dad was secret service and that she's been shooting since age 6. She's a firm believer in good perimeter security, (two pit bulls, a 6 ft fence, and a security system) however she's also a firm believer that the police will never arrive in time, so she believes in taking care of her own self defense.

She also indicated that she owns a "Bushwhacker AR-15" - I'm pretty sure she owns a "Bushmaster" - but stated she's never shot it. She bought it after Sandy Hook when she feared they might be banned and it's a tool she wanted to have around in case things ever get "really bad". She recognizes that while she does not have a current need for it, in a serious break down of civil order, a carbine with some 30 round magazines will be a lot more effective for self defense/home defense than a few handguns.

So...she's coming up on 4 years owning an AR-15 she's never shot, just because she wanted to get one while she still could.

I suspect there are a lot of AR-15 and other "assault weapon" customers like her, who bought one but seldom shoot it, or never shoot it, but just wanted to ensure they got one while they still had the chance.

[TTSH]

Originally Posted by Backlighting

New legislation introduced by Michigan Democrats seeks to make it a felony to own weapons defined as assault weapons. It includes rifles, semi auto pistols & certain shotguns:
House bill seeks to make owning an ‘assault weapon’ a felony | Fox17

Wow! That is pretty sick and impractical even by modern gun grabber standards.

But before we start laughing at it, look what is happening now in CA and MA among other places. And look at what's about to happen on the national level. And once SCOTUS goes, so goes the Second Amendment.

What sounds totally crazy today might be the law of the land tomorrow. Elections have consequences.

[les.b]

Originally Posted by s&wchad

This bill will never make it out of Committee, but it's best to contact your Representative and express your opinion.

This is from the linked article:
House bill seeks to make owning an ‘assault weapon’ a felony | Fox17

That's quite a bill. I don't know what a "trigger pistol grips" is, but I do know what a "commentator" is and most of them disgust me!

Ahhhh... If only we could eliminate everything in the bill except the "commentators", there's something we could live with!!

Best Regards, Les

[pmanton]

I'm one of them. I'm 78 & my wife is 76. We added an AR-15 and an AK-47 underfolder Just in case.

[LDM]

Originally Posted by s&wchad

This bill will never make it out of Committee, but it's best to contact your Representative and express your opinion.

Did just that. Sent an email to my state rep but she's a dem fellow traveler of those clowns so I'm not expecting any positive response. Obviously, she didn't get my vote in the last election.

[Old TexMex]

Get a friend, neighbor, family member to write. Do this by explaining to them the truth. Prove to them you are not a kook or a conspiracy theorist by showing them real examples of the antis lies.


There's a war on for your mind.

[Warren Sear]

Originally Posted by s&wchad

This bill will never make it out of Committee, but it's best to contact your Representative and express your opinion.

This is from the linked article:
House bill seeks to make owning an ‘assault weapon’ a felony | Fox17

That's quite a bill. I don't know what a "trigger pistol grips" is, but I do know what a "commentator" is and most of them disgust me!

It's the "barrel shrouds" that really get me scared.

[ASA335]

Do they mean a "common tater" ?

[carpriver]

The wording of the bill is almost word for word of the bill used in the original Federal ban. I have sent the representatives there messages

[jimbo728]

Oh no! Not the commentators too!..
Jim

[ditrina]

Originally Posted by jimbo728

Oh no! Not the commentators too!..
Jim

Maybe not a bad thing.....

[Old TexMex]

Perhaps things will lighten up.

[rct269]

The AWB of '94-----I remember it well! I didn't know an Assault Weapon from a bale of hay, but if Himself was against them---I was for them---and figured I ought to have one. Off to Knoxville I go!

"Tell me about these assault weapons." Mr. Bill took a Colt "Sporter" (AR-15) down from the rack. He took me through it from one end to the other---ending with the magazine.

"This is a 20 round magazine----but it only holds five rounds. It only holds 5 rounds because it has a spacer in it. That spacer is held in place by THIS rivet---THIS RIVET RIGHT HERE----UNDERSTAND??!!!" I understood.

I took my not so shiny new Assault Weapon home, drilled out the rivet---THIS RIVET RIGHT HERE, and we all lived happily ever after.

Ralph Tremaine

[jag312]

Bloomberg 1 passed in Nevada yesterday. The people in Nevada need to be prepared for Bloomberg 2 in two years.

[Comrad]

Originally Posted by ASA335

Do they mean a "common tater" ?

You say common tater and I say common toter.

Let's call the whole thing off.

Either way, isn't today a great day to make a comment in the Second Amendment forum. I think it is.