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Old 03-05-2017, 01:24 AM
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Most of the concealed carry reciprocity bills being proposed would not help residents of "may issue" states.
One of the new bills, this one from the Senate, is published here:

http://freebeacon.com/wp-content/upl...3/ALB17194.pdf

The irony is that under these bills residents of shall issue states will be able able to carry in may issue states even though residents of may issue states will not be able to carry in their own states.
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The bill isn't meant to help people of may issue states. It's meant to help people of all states who have permits or licenses in their home states be able to legally carry across the country.
The issue of shall issue versus may issue will most likely be settled in the Supreme Court. There are several cases out there, including Peruta that the the Court upon which the Court could make a determination.

That's why part of voting responsibly is thinking about who is going to get to appoint judges to the federal courts.
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The bill isn't meant to help people of may issue states. It's meant to help people of all states who have permits or licenses in their home states be able to legally carry across the country.
The issue of shall issue versus may issue will most likely be settled in the Supreme Court. There are several cases out there, including Peruta that the the Court upon which the Court could make a determination.

That's why part of voting responsibly is thinking about who is going to get to appoint judges to the federal courts.
Well said Gary!
Here in Alabama we have a full permit less Constitutional Carry bill ( I believe it is SB 29 author Gereld Dial if I remember correctly) in play that looks promising to pass. Not only do we need to vote responsibly but we also need to stay aware of what's in play both at the Federal and at our State levels!
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My son has lived in Alabama for five years, to the day, and I've seen the gun laws, friendly to begin with, improve quite a bit.

First recognition of all states licenses, then legislative recognition of open carry, then the five year license, and not many restricted carry areas.

Sadly, he is moving his family to South Carolina in the coming months. Big promotion, but a move is required.

SC is no where near as friendly to out of state gun owners. Reciprocity only for other state resident permits, will only issue non resident permits unless you own property in the state. This bill would change that, which is good for me.

I'm generally opposed to the federal government sticking it's nose into this sort of thing, but I'll make an exception if it benefits me.

Seriously though, it would be better if all states did this voluntarily. The same goes for shall issue. They aren't likely to like what the Congress or SCOTUS are going to force on them.

I also keep in mind that if Justice Thomas had his way, McDonald v Chicago would have been decided on the 14th Amendment "Privileges or Immunities" clause and not as it was. Privileges of Immunities has been dead since the Slaughterhouse case in the early 1870s. Still Thomas would have revived it and used it to force Chicago to allow guns in public housing.

As I posted earlier, there is at least one potential case before SCOTUS that could decide shall issue once and for all.

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Well said Gary!
Here in Alabama we have a full permit less Constitutional Carry bill ( I believe it is SB 29 author Gereld Dial if I remember correctly) in play that looks promising to pass. Not only do we need to vote responsibly but we also need to stay aware of what's in play both at the Federal and at our State levels!
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