North Carolina trying to back up on Gun Law.

[dben002]

Thanks to Sportymonk of another gun forum for this enlightening post information.



North Carolina Gun Law going in Reverse!!

RALEIGH, North Carolina (WTVD) -- There is a new push to repeal North Carolina's "Stand Your Ground" law.

House Bill 723, which is being called the "Gun Safety Act," is scheduled to be introduced in the General Assembly Tuesday.

It would allow a person to use deadly force in self-defense only after using every reasonable means to avoid the danger - including retreating.

The bill would also strengthen the law regarding safe storage of firearms.

Currently, there are 26 states with "stand your ground" laws, including North Carolina.

Go to link for link to the bill.

New push to repeal North Carolina's 'Stand Your Ground' law | abc11.com

[DD357]

Lots of bills get introduced with zero chance of getting anywhere, is this one of those?

[dben002]

Originally Posted by DD357

Lots of bills get introduced with zero chance of getting anywhere, is this one of those?

This came as news to me and have not heard a thing about it until now. So I hope you are correct....

[.455_Hunter]

Just because some snowflake state rep or state senator introduces a bill does not mean "a state is trying to [________]." Probable passing by one or both sides, with a positive outlook from a governor, then I will take notice.

[robertrwalsh]

Many legislators introduce legislation to make constituents happy that they KNOW is going to fail. Its part of the game.

[Kodiakco]

The best place to go for up to date info for NC is Grass Roots North Carolina - Home

They are the most active NC gun right organization and have done the most to help keep our 2A rights intact.

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[dmar]

Legislation written straight from the Bloomberg playbook. So many wrong things in this legislation, I don't know where to begin!

Taking away/limiting your right to protect yourself and your family in your own home! Exposure to devastating criminal and civil punishment for protecting yourself,in your own home, from criminal intrusion is just the beginning of this horrible proposed law.

Compulsory insurance coverage for all gun owners! Yup, want to exercise your constitutional right to keep and bear arms, better be ready to be forced to pay an insurance company to exercise that right! Want to sell, or transfer a gun, you will need to get proof that the other person has that insurance, too, or your a criminal! This is also back-door registration and restriction of on the buying and selling of guns. What part of "shall not be infringed" do they not understand?!

How about the whole reciprocity law change. Don't like concealed carry, how about we legislate some onerous elements that effectively diminish people's rights to exercise their rights to bear arms across state lines. Again, back door legislation designed to restrict people from exercising their 2nd amendment rights. They want to make it more difficult to carry, have less people doing it.

How about that "gun violence restraining order" law! Man, that won't be used to abuse gun ownership, will it! Some good old fashioned gun confiscation is always such a juicy target for these gun grabbing, people-controlling types! Let's use some hype, hysteria, and a some tragic examples to set the stage for gun confiscation based on someone's accusations. How about demanding true due process when wanting to take away constitutional rights! I'm 100% positive that there are situations where this is necessary, but let's not provide a carte blanche, loosely defined, legally binding method to strip rights. If this, then what's next...!

Oh, I really like the proposed law to exercise economic assault on firearms manufacturers by requiring the state to divest any of its funds/holdings in these companies. Targeting legally operating companies because they do not fit in your political ideology does not mean it's right, or legal.

Don't get me started on the magazine capacity law proposal. But, I do love it when they exempt an "agency, department, or agency" of the state, or federal government. Takes some of the heat/opposition away from this infringement. You have no idea how important this component is to the gun grabbers, they cannot afford to take on opposition from government agencies. So, divide and conquer is always easier... I realize law enforcement needs large capacity mags, support this 100%. What I'm saying is that if they need them, then why shouldn't a citizen also be allowed them? We live in the same world, and are often exposed to similar dangers. If I can't carry a police officer with their large capacity magazine with me, I should be able to carry a large capacity magazine. Plus, this is supposed to be government for the people, by the people... We all need to stand together for our rights, and be vocal for ALL of us.

There's so much more to this Bloomberg blue print of proposed law changes. But, I've said enough. Please get involved in this.

All North Carolina gun owners, and other residents that care about individual freedoms, need to call and write their state representatives to oppose this over-reaching, unconstitutional, and largely unnecessary legislation.

This means you, please do not be passive and think that somebody else will engage. You must engage, and be vocal. People behind these laws rely on people not getting involved to get these bills passed.

It's easy to Google your state rep's name, phone number, email and mailing addresses. Also, contact any of the reps in leadership positions, even if they are not your district representatives, they need to hear your voice. Be polite, be direct, and be firm that you expect them to oppose this proposal. Thank you!

[dmar]

I agree that this legislation most likely won't go anywhere due to the party that still holds majority in the state house.

But, it is still important to be vocal. Make a quick call, write a quick email, it's easy. Let them know that you're paying attention. You'd be surprised how few people engage, this is the problem! By taking action to engage your elected officials, it puts the 'silent majority' out into the fray, and reminds our elected officials to be vigilant, for us!

[blues7]

It would be a shame if NC should go down that road. I agree that currently it's not likely.

[WCCPHD]

The bill has been introduced and has not come up for first reading and assignment. I predict it will be referred to the Rules Committee to "lie upon the table."

[Watchdog]

Originally Posted by .455_Hunter

Just because some **** state rep or state senator introduces a bill does not mean "a state is trying to [________]."

This is exactly right. The two primary sponsors for this garbage bill are Representatives Verla Insko and Mary Price "Pricey" Harrison. I'm not seeing any other North Carolina legislators who have attached their names to this travesty. I believe the legislators realize there is so much junk in this bill that to associate themselves with it would be a huge black mark on their political career in this state. There's so much garbage in this bill, the landfill wouldn't have room for it all.

Also, it looks as if just about every story about this begins with: "There is a new push to repeal North Carolina's "Stand Your Ground" law."

Well, there is no "push", old or new. That's just sensationalistic reporting on the part of some NC media outlets.They're quoting from a generic legislative handout.They may as well have copied it off some office bulletin board in Raleigh. This is simply a poor and blatant attempt at shotgun legislation on the part of a couple of legislators who are insecure about their own identities and their own relevance on the North Carolina political scene. Frankly, I'd never heard of these two before this morning.

It doesn't appear that either one of them has ever heard the expression, "A snowball's chance in Hell".

[LDM]

Should be renamed the "Violent Perpetrators Protection Act" because that's in effect what it really is. Hopefully this will die in committee and never reach the floor. Another example of the piecemeal attack of citizens' rights to protect themselves at the state level in light of the failure of the national effort.

[WCCPHD]

Originally Posted by Watchdog

This is exactly right. The two primary sponsors for this garbage bill are Representatives Verla Insko and Mary Price "Pricey" Harrison. I'm not seeing any other North Carolina legislators who have attached their names to this travesty. I believe the legislators realize there is so much junk in this bill that to associate themselves with it would be a huge black mark on their political career in this state. There's so much garbage in this bill, the landfill wouldn't have room for it all.

Also, it looks as if just about every story about this begins with: "There is a new push to repeal North Carolina's "Stand Your Ground" law."

Well, there is no "push", old or new. That's just sensationalistic reporting on the part of some NC media outlets.They're quoting from a generic legislative handout.They may as well have copied it off some office bulletin board in Raleigh. This is simply a poor and blatant attempt at shotgun legislation on the part of a couple of legislators who are insecure about their own identities and their own relevance on the North Carolina political scene. Frankly, I'd never heard of these two before this morning.

It doesn't appear that either one of them has ever heard the expression, "A snowball's chance in Hell".

The bill is still open for sponsors to sign on. As of now there are five. Harrison, Insko, Fisher, Cunningham and Floyd. All of the same political persuasion and all from major metro areas.

[WCCPHD]

Originally Posted by WCCPHD

The bill has been introduced and has not come up for first reading and assignment. I predict it will be referred to the Rules Committee to "lie upon the table."

Passed first reading (which is simply a formality) and then:

"Ref to the Com on Judiciary I, if favorable, RULES, Calendar, and Operations of the House"

Its DOA

[BigDog48]

It'll die in the Committee process.

[Watchdog]

"North Carolina trying to back up on Gun Law."

Let me set the record straight on this thread's title and this proposed legislation.

No, North Carolina...the state...is not trying to back up on any gun laws.A bill was introduced earlier this month by two misinformed and misguided legislators. Several more equally uneducated legislators signed on as co-sponsors.

Even the two main sponsors of this bill, Mary Harrison (D) and Verla Insko (D) have publicly admitted/stated that they know the bill has little or no chance of becoming law. I have my own ideas as to why they introduced this bill, but can't get into that here.

So to reiterate...and make it perfectly clear...this isn't the state doing this. It isn't the gun owners, collectors, and sportsmen of this fine state who are doing this. I'm pretty confident in saying that none of us want anything to do with this bill and all of us find it totally ridiculous.

Regarding this proposed bill's status, it was sent to the Judiciary Committee on April 11. It's still sitting there on someone's desk. I doubt it's going anywhere soon.

Trying to back up? Nope. We're still moving forward with proposed legislation that is pro-Second Amendment.

[Walkingwolf]

There is a representative in Charlotte that is always proposing these scat laws. With the makeup of the legislature it will go nowhere.

Oooops, I see it wasn't her this time, but two progressives out of Raleigh. There are so many Yankees around Raleigh it is no surprise.

The only thing standing in our way now is the dem governor, hopefully they have enough votes to override a veto on the CC constitutional carry bill.

[Watchdog]

Originally Posted by Walkingwolf

There is a representative in Charlotte that is always proposing these scat laws.

Who are you referring to? It's okay to name names on this forum when you're talking about legislators who are pro-2A or anti-2A, as long as you don't refer to them in an offensive or derogatory manner.

Originally Posted by Walkingwolf

Oooops, I see it wasn't her this time, but two progressives out of Raleigh. There are so many Yankees around Raleigh it is no surprise.

There are a lot of transplants in the Raleigh-Durham-Chapel Hill area, mostly because of all the good paying tech jobs in and around the Triangle. Regarding people from up north, the two legislators who introduced the bill are from Arkansas and Greensboro...hardly what I'd call "Yankees".

Originally Posted by Walkingwolf

The only thing standing in our way now is the governor...

Well, no...Roy Cooper isn't the only thing standing in our way. Proposed pro-gun bills have to get out of committee, then make it to the governor's desk. The most recent pro-gun bills are still languishing in committee.

As I mentioned in another post, maybe even in another thread, proposed firearms bills aren't high on the legislature's list of priorities, and probably won't be for the remainder of the session. Sad, but true.

[GaryS]

While it's likely that this bill will just go to a committee to die a quiet death, it's never safe to assume that will happen.

The best way to make sure that it does happen is for residents of the state to write to their legislators and ask them to kill the bill.

Left to themselves, legislators will go with the path of least resistance. If a lot of people write to support a bill, they will vote for it. If a lot of people write to oppose a bill, they will oppose it.

If you write, email, or call, the first thing that is going to happen is someone on their staff is going to see if you are registered to vote. If you aren't, your email or letter goes into the trash. You'll get a polite reply over the phone, but that will be forgotten as soon as you hang up.

Do with that as you will.

Originally Posted by WCCPHD

The bill has been introduced and has not come up for first reading and assignment. I predict it will be referred to the Rules Committee to "lie upon the table."

[Watchdog]

Originally Posted by GaryS

While it's likely that this bill will just go to a committee to die a quiet death, it's never safe to assume that will happen.

The majority of gun owners, sportsmen, and collectors do not assume anything of the sort when it comes to anti-gun legislation in North Carolina. Although we have fairly good (but somewhat quirky) gun laws on the books here, we are not complacent.

Originally Posted by GaryS

The best way to make sure that it does happen is for residents of the state to write to their legislators and ask them to kill the bill.

We're up to date on all the methods of working against anti-gun/anti-2A legislation in North Carolina.

[GaryS]

And here I thought that people from the south were friendly.

Originally Posted by Watchdog

The majority of gun owners, sportsmen, and collectors do not assume anything of the sort when it comes to anti-gun legislation in North Carolina. Although we have fairly good (but somewhat quirky) gun laws on the books here, we are not complacent.



We're up to date on all the methods of working against anti-gun/anti-2A legislation in North Carolina.

[78bagger]

A bit off subject, but the good news is Gov. Ducey says no to private sale background checks in Az. Still gun friendly, and hot.

[Practical]

You guys keep telling yourself it is NOT likely.

BUT watch the news and see the protests.

Also realize, most of my NY relatives all them voting democrats have relocated to North and South Carolina to get away from the snow and little by little their kids & spouses have relocated there.

I have as many relatives of a large extended family who resided in NY since 1763 in the Carolinas now as are here.

Bluntly, they are bringing their liberal ways to your state and will ruin it.

[hoc9sw]

I find the optimism that most of the apparently absurd proposals will die a quiet death to be dangerous. Only one has to get through. Like terror threats, LE has be get it right 100% of the time, terrorists only once.

Anyone look at the budget, and all of the one-liners in that 2000+ pages? No one reads them, they just get pushed through to get the main point dealt with. We can expect gun regulations to begin to follow that path as well.

Eyes open, guys!

[paulh]

Originally Posted by Practical

You guys keep telling yourself it is NOT likely.

BUT watch the news and see the protests.

Also realize, most of my NY relatives all them voting democrats have relocated to North and South Carolina to get away from the snow and little by little their kids & spouses have relocated there.

I have as many relatives of a large extended family who resided in NY since 1763 in the Carolinas now as are here.

Bluntly, they are bringing their liberal ways to your state and will ruin it.

Absolutely! We were planning on moving to the Tryon area until every place we stopped at to eat or shop had nothing but NJ&NY cars in the lot. Figured I might as well just stay.

[Watchdog]

Originally Posted by hoc9sw

I find the optimism that most of the apparently absurd proposals will die a quiet death to be dangerous. Only one has to get through. Like terror threats, LE has be get it right 100% of the time, terrorists only once.

Anyone look at the budget, and all of the one-liners in that 2000+ pages?

I'm not sure why or how this sort of Zombie Thread got resurrected, but it's veering way off course here.

Which budget are you referring to? This thread is about a proposed North Carolina bill, HB 723, facetiously known as the Gun Safety Act. It has nothing to do with any federal bills or budgets, and nothing at all to do with semi-auto weapons, high capacity magazines, school shootings, Las Vegas, or anything else that's happened in the past few months. What it is about is this state's Stand Your Ground law.

To reiterate what's already been said here, the bill was referred to the Judiciary Committee on April 11, 2017. It is still in that same committee after almost a year. From what I hear and read, there are no plans to advance this bill. Pay no attention to what you have heard or may hear from Roy Cooper.

Originally Posted by paulh

Absolutely! We were planning on moving to the Tryon area until every place we stopped at to eat or shop had nothing but NJ&NY cars in the lot. Figured I might as well just stay.

This has absolutely nothing to do with your Second Amendment rights in the state of North Carolina. And the idea that northern transplants are influencing this state's gun laws to the detriment of lifelong residents is simply ludicrous. The people I've worked with who moved down here...and I worked with a lot of them...are so happy to be free from the legislative and financial yokes of states like New Jersey and New York, they couldn't care less about our gun laws. And northerners have sold their homes up north, move down here, and find out they can buy two or three times the house they had in Jersey with that same money.

Plus, it doesn't take northern transplants long to figure out that what they've heard about us Southerners is true. We are a friendly and welcoming people. They've also discovered it's true that we really don't give a damn about how y'all "did it up north."

I will say this, though. If you had seriously considered moving to the Tryon area, you should be aware that that whole Tryon-Saluda-Asheville area...I call it the I-26 Corridor...has morphed into a major destination for tourists to this state. That may account for your seeing a lot of out of state cars, but I seriously doubt that "nothing but NY & NJ cars" thing.

To reiterate (again)...all this has nothing to do with North Carolina's gun laws or your right to keep and bear arms and enjoy all the benefits afforded us by the Second Amendment.

We are not going backwards on 2A issues in North Carolina. No one I know and talk to about this is in a panic about any proposed NC gun law. Period.

[Walkingwolf]

Funny thing about all those roads that lead south to NC, they also go north. I tell folks all the time when they spout about "up north". "See that highway, if you drive north on it long enough, you will be up north"

As far as gun rights unless the feds ban OC we will always have OC. I doubt our firearm laws will change in the state. May not get loosened more, but doubt too much will go downhill.

[robertrwalsh]

I would be shocked if this went anywhere, but the snowflakes are invading everywhere so you never know.

[BigDog48]

I moved to NC from MD 15 years ago. I spent 55 of my 70 years in MD, and was lucky to live in an area where I had easy access to membership in an Isaak Walton club with a range.

I would not move back to MD for $1M. In NC, in as remote an area as I live on the beach (tourist mecca), I am able to own firearms and shoot and make many new friends who share my enthusiasm for the shooting sports.

I love it here, and will never live in any other state that gives both freedom to responsible firearms owners to pursue their hobby, but also is careful to have enforced laws in place that prevent unlawful ownership.

[GaryS]

About a year ago, my son moved from the Gulf Coast of Alabama to South Carolina. He works in Charlotte, and lives just over the line in Lancaster County.

He tells me about once a week that NC and SC are no long "the south". That there are too many liberals here and he wants to move back to Alabama.

Pretty funny for a kid who grew up in MA and live in NJ for five years before moving to AL.

He and my lovely daughter in law are about as conservative as can be. Y'all need more like him down there.

[ladder13]

Originally Posted by paulh

Absolutely! We were planning on moving to the Tryon area until every place we stopped at to eat or shop had nothing but NJ&NY cars in the lot. Figured I might as well just stay.

NJ is about to get worse, if that’s possible.

Big N.J. gun control bills set for votes on Monday, and Phil Murphy vows to sign them | NJ.com

[Bugkiller99]

Originally Posted by dmar

I agree that this legislation most likely won't go anywhere due to the party that still holds majority in the state house.

I realize this is a zombie thread, but I would have said the same thing as dmar, when he said it, too.

See where that got me...

[paulh]

Originally Posted by Watchdog

I'm not sure why or how this sort of Zombie Thread got resurrected, but it's veering way off course here.

Which budget are you referring to? This thread is about a proposed North Carolina bill, HB 723, facetiously known as the Gun Safety Act. It has nothing to do with any federal bills or budgets, and nothing at all to do with semi-auto weapons, high capacity magazines, school shootings, Las Vegas, or anything else that's happened in the past few months. What it is about is this state's Stand Your Ground law.

To reiterate what's already been said here, the bill was referred to the Judiciary Committee on April 11, 2017. It is still in that same committee after almost a year. From what I hear and read, there are no plans to advance this bill. Pay no attention to what you have heard or may hear from Roy Cooper.



This has absolutely nothing to do with your Second Amendment rights in the state of North Carolina. And the idea that northern transplants are influencing this state's gun laws to the detriment of lifelong residents is simply ludicrous. The people I've worked with who moved down here...and I worked with a lot of them...are so happy to be free from the legislative and financial yokes of states like New Jersey and New York, they couldn't care less about our gun laws. And northerners have sold their homes up north, move down here, and find out they can buy two or three times the house they had in Jersey with that same money.

Plus, it doesn't take northern transplants long to figure out that what they've heard about us Southerners is true. We are a friendly and welcoming people. They've also discovered it's true that we really don't give a damn about how y'all "did it up north."

I will say this, though. If you had seriously considered moving to the Tryon area, you should be aware that that whole Tryon-Saluda-Asheville area...I call it the I-26 Corridor...has morphed into a major destination for tourists to this state. That may account for your seeing a lot of out of state cars, but I seriously doubt that "nothing but NY & NJ cars" thing.

To reiterate (again)...all this has nothing to do with North Carolina's gun laws or your right to keep and bear arms and enjoy all the benefits afforded us by the Second Amendment.

We are not going backwards on 2A issues in North Carolina. No one I know and talk to about this is in a panic about any proposed NC gun law. Period.

For what purpose would I lie. I know what we saw. Same thing in Hendersonville and this was the early 90's.

[ladder13]

Much ado about nuthin’.

I’m a transplant myself, down here two years, but was looking for a place for the past ten. We would have been here sooner except an elderly relative needed our assistance.

We settled in the north Raleigh area after looking elsewhere in the state. We moved here for many reasons, lower housing cost, better weather, being halfway from NY and FL where we have peeps, and most important the healthcare in the Triangle.

This area may be known for it’s liberal bent, but I have to say all my ex northern neighbors( NJ, NY, PA, CT) all own guns, and know how to use them. I also know their party affiliation, it’s public record, they’re on the right side, imo.

I have some personal friends who moved from NY and NJ, and they’re just a smidge less right than I am.

Go visit some of the Carolina specific gun forums and see all the new people introducing themselves, they’re all from up north, or CA.
Not every northerner is here to change the south. Yes, it’s still the south.

I heard all the talk back before I left. “ You can’t run”....” the liberals are moving to the Carolinas”...”they’re going to ruin it”.......yada yada. Heck, there’s plenty of liberal southerners as well. Here’s an example. It Begins. Democrat Candidate for Sheriff Suggests Killing People to Take Their Guns

I’m here and staying. Try it, you may like it.
My view.

[ameridaddy]

Originally Posted by dmar

Legislation written straight from the Bloomberg playbook. So many wrong things in this legislation, I don't know where to begin!

...l.

Don't get me started on the magazine capacity law proposal. But, I do love it when they exempt an "agency, department, or agency" of the state, or federal government. Takes some of the heat/opposition away from this infringement. You have no idea how important this component is to the gun grabbers, they cannot afford to take on opposition from government agencies. So, divide and conquer is always easier... I realize law enforcement needs large capacity mags, support this 100%. What I'm saying is that if they need them, then why shouldn't a citizen also be allowed them? We live in the same world, and are often exposed to similar dangers. If I can't carry a police officer with their large capacity magazine with me, I should be able to carry a large capacity magazine. Plus, this is supposed to be government for the people, by the people... We all need to stand together for our rights, and be vocal for ALL of us.
...

Until you're awakened by an intruder standing at the foot of your bed at 3:00 am; until you alone have to confront five guys who beat you to the ground, you have no right to tell me what I need to defend myself. I have, and say this:

“Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man against his own bosom. Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birthright of an American… The unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people.”
- Tench Coxe – Delegate to the Annapolis Convention 1786, and the Continental Congress 1788

[fdw]

I'm originally from NC, sad to see how liberal it's becoming.

[WCCPHD]

Originally Posted by fdw

I'm originally from NC, sad to see how liberal it's becoming.

There are pockets of liberals, mainly in the large cities/metro areas. Chapel Hill has always been that way and unfortunately the surrounding areas are full of the overflow. The rural areas are, in my opinion, becoming more conservative or at least maintaining. Native North Carolineans have always said Charlotte is its own state and we would be better off giving it to South Carolina. Problem is they are too smart to take it.

Asheville and the sourrounding area is known as the San Francisco of the East.

The main issue is that the cities are growing and the rural areas are loosing population. The concentration of liberals strengthens their voting power and they are electing like minded people, exampled by several of the state wide offices in the last election (trying to stay away from politics).

[fdw]

Originally Posted by WCCPHD

There are pockets of liberals, mainly in the large cities/metro areas. Chapel Hill has always been that way and unfortunately the surrounding areas are full of the overflow. The rural areas are, in my opinion, becoming more conservative or at least maintaining. Native North Carolineans have always said Charlotte is its own state and we would be better off giving it to South Carolina. Problem is they are too smart to take it.

Asheville and the sourrounding area is known as the San Francisco of the East.

The main issue is that the cities are growing and the rural areas are loosing population. The concentration of liberals strengthens their voting power and they are electing like minded people, exampled by several of the state wide offices in the last election (trying to stay away from politics).

We don't want Charlotte...

[WCCPHD]

Originally Posted by fdw

We don't want Charlotte...

I said you were too smart. We don't either.

[rwsmith]

How in the world is repealing a 'stand your ground' going to cut gun violence or people shooting up public places, or anywhere. If anything, it's just a way to disadvantage a law abiding citizen and give a perpetrator more opportunity to rob or harm him.

[Kiwi cop]

Originally Posted by WCCPHD

The bill is still open for sponsors to sign on. As of now there are five. Harrison, Insko, Fisher, Cunningham and Floyd. All of the same political persuasion and all from major metro areas.

A case of big "liberal" city representatives putting forward legislation in a conservative state because they are soon up for re-election???

Why is North Carolina so conservative politically despite being home to a many universities and a relatively diverse population? - Quora

How conservative states and liberal cities vie for control - The Economist explains

[paulh]

Originally Posted by ladder13

NJ is about to get worse, if that’s possible.

Big N.J. gun control bills set for votes on Monday, and Phil Murphy vows to sign them | NJ.com

It did, they passed them all. $50.00 to register a +10 mag

[ladder13]

Originally Posted by paulh

It did, they passed them all. $50.00 to register a +10 mag

I doubt if they get much compliance. After the unSafe Act was passed in NY, it required “evil featured” AR’s and some other semi’s to be registered with the NYSP. The rate of compliance was estimated to be somewhere in the 4-5% range.

[rperillo05]

Originally Posted by paulh

It did, they passed them all. $50.00 to register a +10 mag

Have a link where I read about what was passed ?

[ladder13]

QUOTE=rperillo05;139980101]Have a link where I read about what was passed ?[/QUOTE]



Lawmakers just voted to make N.J. gun laws even tougher | NJ.com