NRA's Opposition to Sotomayor fails to persuade Senators

David LaPell · #1 08-01-2009, 01:24 PM

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Gutpile Charlie · #2 08-01-2009, 02:13 PM

I realize this may just be like "jousting at windmills", however, I think it is time that we all concentrate all our efforts on soundly defeating anyone, Republican or Democrat that votes against freedom, against our representative forum of government, that does not hold our founding ideals sacred and who would promote socialism.

Years ago I would have not believed in "litmus tests", but we have come a long way, in the wrong direction, since then.

A vote for Sotomayor is a vote for totalitarian socialism. She is totally and completely unsuited to sit on the highest court in the land. Once our current problems ever turn around, any of these folks still in government need to be routed out and unseated.

Spotteddog · #3 08-01-2009, 03:49 PM

The ONLY thing that persuades senators are crowds of rabble with torches and pitchforks. Or, having their collective keister's booted out at the next cycle. Awhile back Sip linked to a PDF for a "pink slip" that you could fill out and mail your congresscreatures. It was very direct in it's language and thrust, and would satisfy all but the most frothy of mouth among us. I cant link from this computer (work) but I'll post it here when I get home.

Here it is,

http://www.moveoutcongress.com/

RABULL · #4 08-01-2009, 04:24 PM

I think the NRA waited and sat on the fence way too long before they came out against her. By the time that they came out, many had already agreed to vote for her.

YeshuaIsa53 · #5 08-02-2009, 06:30 PM

This upcoming week isn't over yet and the fight has not been decided.
There is still hope, so don't try and take that from me, too!

cshoff · #6 08-02-2009, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by RABULL

I think the NRA waited and sat on the fence way too long before they came out against her. By the time that they came out, many had already agreed to vote for her.

I suspect that the NRA knew it would make little difference. Sotomayor was going to get the knod regardless of what the NRA did or didn't do, so it was a moot point. She was a bad pick, but she was a liberal replacing another liberal. The end result was no gain, but no net loss either.

The Rabbi · #7 08-03-2009, 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by cshoff

I suspect that the NRA knew it would make little difference. Sotomayor was going to get the knod regardless of what the NRA did or didn't do, so it was a moot point. She was a bad pick, but she was a liberal replacing another liberal. The end result was no gain, but no net loss either.

I agree except that she was a bad pick. She isn't nearly as bad as made out, and not as bad as it could have been (think, Deval Patrick). Coming out against her isn't going to win any friends and will simply alienate Hispanics.

Cruiser RN · #8 08-03-2009, 06:31 AM

Charlie you stated it well.What gets to me is that people are more concerned about her being a latina from the projects that made it.I am a white male nurse that grew up IN THOSE SAME HOUSING PROJECTS.If she were reflecting upon what it was like and where she came from she would be very pro second ammendment because crime found you without you looking and you learned how to defend yourself.We moved out after someone sent a few rounds smoking thru our apt.God Bless......Mike

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Originally Posted by Gutpile Charlie

I realize this may just be like "jousting at windmills", however, I think it is time that we all concentrate all our efforts on soundly defeating anyone, Republican or Democrat that votes against freedom, against our representative forum of government, that does not hold our founding ideals sacred and who would promote socialism.

Years ago I would have not believed in "litmus tests", but we have come a long way, in the wrong direction, since then.

A vote for Sotomayor is a vote for totalitarian socialism. She is totally and completely unsuited to sit on the highest court in the land. Once our current problems ever turn around, any of these folks still in government need to be routed out and unseated.

YeshuaIsa53 · #9 08-05-2009, 10:30 AM

She clearly does not understand the Constitution.

David LaPell · #10 08-05-2009, 10:56 AM

Oh,
I think Sotomayor understands the Constitution, but following it, is another matter.

BadKarma · #11 08-05-2009, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Gutpile Charlie

I realize this may just be like "jousting at windmills", however, I think it is time that we all concentrate all our efforts on soundly defeating anyone, Republican or Democrat that votes against freedom, against our representative forum of government, that does not hold our founding ideals sacred and who would promote socialism.

Years ago I would have not believed in "litmus tests", but we have come a long way, in the wrong direction, since then.

A vote for Sotomayor is a vote for totalitarian socialism. She is totally and completely unsuited to sit on the highest court in the land. Once our current problems ever turn around, any of these folks still in government need to be routed out and unseated.

Ding-Ding-Ding give that man a cigar.

YeshuaIsa53 · #12 08-05-2009, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by David LaPell

Oh,
I think Sotomayor understands the Constitution, but following it, is another matter.

Placement of such a person in such a position would then be unconstitutional.

BLACKHAWKNJ · #13 08-05-2009, 07:49 PM

Sotomayor and her ilk think the Constitution is a blank slate on which they can write as they please. And most of our elected representatives haven't read it either-it does allow the elected branch to overule the appointed one.
The Obamahdi has played racial and ethnic politics with this one-vote against a "wise Latina" and you're a bigot and a racist.

YeshuaIsa53 · #14 08-06-2009, 09:00 AM

While I respectfully understand what you are saying and give it merit, the upholding of the Constitution comes before that. Period.
Reminds me a a certain thousand page bill trying to be shoved into existence; it is the little hidden things in it that make it impossible to vote for it. Using what you said understandingly as you did, one might say a vote against the health care package would only come from a religious zealot.
The coup in our country over the past decades to rid our government from religious influence through the undermining of morals, ethics, and virtues will lead our country into an iceberg unless someone that cares grabs the wheel at the helm. That undermining has, itself, turned into a form of virtues, ethics, and ideals similar to anti-religious socialism. I am fortunate enough to live in an area of our country where the people still have common sense to see and understand reality. At least I can feel comfortable by my surroundings when that happens. We have lifeboats.

mkk41 · #15 08-08-2009, 08:53 PM

Sotomayor keeps refering to herself as a Latina and a Puerto Rican. I've never heard her once refer to herself as an American.

G-Mac · #16 08-08-2009, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by The Rabbi

You are free to disagree that sugar is sweet. But you better have something to back it up.

Well, for starters, I don't believe that this woman believes in the basic God-given right of self-defense.

And, to address your other comment...

"Coming out against her isn't going to win any friends and will simply alienate Hispanics."

That's one of the reasons the country is in the state it's in...people being conditioned to not speak their minds because it might "offend" somebody...

The Rabbi · #17 08-08-2009, 10:43 PM

You'll have to provide some evidence of your belief. I don't know that there is a requirement in the Constitution to believe anything . Actually I think there is a prohibition on such a requirement.

As to teh second point, you totally misunderstand the issue.

G-Mac · #18 08-08-2009, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by The Rabbi

You'll have to provide some evidence of your belief.

Actually, no, I don't have to provide anything. Her stated beliefs are on record...look them up.

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As to the second point, you totally misunderstand the issue.

I understand the issue quite clearly. That only reinforces my position, doesn't sway me in the least.