I have 1 pair of LG-405's that float between several J-frames, currently they are on my model 60 in 357 and will probably stay of them for some time now since I think they offer the most comfort of any grip for shooting 357 and with the laser to boot. CT has a real winner with these, however I do agree with DC7 in that sometimes I wish they were a bit more "filling" but they are leaps and bounds over the original all plastic ones.