I have a couple, one maroon and the other green, and wear them when I go to the beach on vacation. Neither "scream gun, " to anyone but a pro, so I don't care. They work well for me. I carry a Kahr P9 with 2 extra mags, a knife and a flashlight in the smaller, rectangular, maroon one (an Eagle, no longer made model), and a Glock 27 with the same extras, but only one spare mag in the larger, green one (a DeSantis).