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09-01-2010, 12:52 PM
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This appears to be designed for Cowboy Action shooting or something similar. The shorter case would be easier to extract. The .38 Special is a longer .38 Long Colt case, perhaps this is "reverse engineering" all over again.
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09-01-2010, 01:26 PM
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I've used it before. My friend had a few boxes left in his closet he gave me. The only thing I remember about it was that it was very smoky and left lots of grainy residue on my revolver.
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09-01-2010, 11:34 PM
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Please note. These cases are .38 spl. dia. They are undersized in .38 S&W. If you shoot them in your old Safety Dbl. Action or Victory Model, the cases will split.
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09-02-2010, 09:39 AM
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A number of revolver shooters who compete in USPSA and ICORE use the shorter 38 Colt brass for perceived faster reloads with the shorter case.
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09-02-2010, 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by pilgrim6a
Please note. These cases are .38 spl. dia. They are undersized in .38 S&W. If you shoot them in your old Safety Dbl. Action or Victory Model, the cases will split.
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Please don't parrot what you have "Heard somewhere" and have no experience with. The nominal difference between .38 Spl. and .38 S&W is .008", about 4 pages in a typical "slick" magazine. The smaller case will have a slightly higher probability of splitting when fired than a proper sized case, but to say it will split is assuming what simply isn't true.
One of the most extreme cases I can cite is fire-forming 7mm Remington Magnum cases to .458 Winchester Magnum, a difference of ca. .174", nearly 22 times the difference between the .38 cases, with less than 5% failures due to splitting. If anything was going to split this would seem to be a nearly 100% certainty, wouldn't it?
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09-04-2010, 02:27 AM
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Please don't parrot what you have "Heard somewhere" and have no experience with.
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Perhaps you shouldn't assume the poster "has no experience" with cases splitting. Especially when you say:
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The smaller case will have a slightly higher probability of splitting when fired than a proper sized case,
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For all you know they may have had an issue with cases splitting, in their gun.
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09-04-2010, 10:15 PM
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I have never tried to shoot .38 Short Colts in a .38 S&W chamber, however...
I have had factory new .38 special non+P split on the first firing in S&W M&P's that were originally chambered in .38 S&W that have been lengthened to take .38 Specials, but not very often- like one in six.
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I have seen the Mactech cases split in a Safety Hammerless and a '50s Terrier. Both in good condition. I have nothing against Magtech, the .38 & .44 spl. loads are great,and the brass holds up well in reloading. But these Spl. short loads are bad news in .38S&W chambers.IME
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09-09-2010, 11:44 AM
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...interesting, new to me. Please forgive my ignorance on this, but: Can you safely shoot these out of a modern manufactured .38 / .357 revolver? If so, seems like a 3rd load option for a .38 /.357 wheel gun. Thanks in advance for the information.
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