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Old 03-17-2011, 11:13 AM
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Am thinking of joining a rod&gun club. During the first visit I was informed that the use of jacketed bullets was not permitted on the pistol range due to "excessive damage" behind the target area - lead only. What's the best way to go as far as bullet type to use in M-P 9C and M-P 40 or - should I look for another club?
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Old 03-17-2011, 11:23 AM
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You would probaly need to go with reloaded ammo to find lead in thoses calibers. Some of your smaller commerical ammo companys should offer them, but shipping can kill you. Some indoor ranges don't allow lead ammo, our club wanted only lead to avoid damage to the backstop, we ended up getting a new backstop instead.
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Old 03-17-2011, 11:26 AM
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ask the guys at the club, I am sure they have a source to buy the proper ammo at a reasonable price
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usually gun shows always have loaded ammo pretty cheap. lead or jacket. when not reloading it is a good source at a discount.
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Check www.mastercast.net. I've fired off many thousands (stopped counting) of their 9mm 124gr hardcast lead truncated cone reloads, as well as a similar number of their .38sp 148gr WC. Never a problem. They're a Mom and Pop operation in rural western Pennsylvania. Excellent service and prices. You can really save money by exchanging your spent brass, same caliber and number. I send up to 2,000 cases to them in a USPS ten dollar Priority Mail box. Any other way I know of costs twice that.

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I have heard quite a few recommendations for Atlanta Arms and Ammo. I have never purchased anything from them, so I can not offer any first hand experience.
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Thanks for the input all. I guess I'll be joining the club.
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The French LaBelle rifle was the first to use copper jacketed bullets, I believe around 1890. The copper isn't just to look good. At speeds of about 1100 fps and above, i.e. supersonic, lead fouling of rifling becomes very significant. Good modern 9mm and .40 handgun rounds are right around this point.

If you shoot hot loads or other guns with higher muzzle velocities and use only non-jacketed lead, it won't hurt your gun. But you will have to clean it more often and more thoroughly or it will affect accuracy.

BTW, the LaBelle was also the first rifle to use boattail bullets.
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I have heard quite a few recommendations for Atlanta Arms and Ammo. I have never purchased anything from them, so I can not offer any first hand experience.
I would be Georgia Arms, but I think their 9mm is all jacketed
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