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Old 04-07-2011, 10:20 AM
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Question 0.22 JET AMMO ?

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i own a 53 model in 0.22 jet cal.
can anyone tell me abut manufacturers of this round ?
or abut reloading it ?
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Old 04-07-2011, 10:39 AM
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Sorry, not much help here...
Foster Bear Arms in Foster, RI had a few bags of .22 Jet brass on the shelf, but that was awhile ago and if you're not in the area, it doesn't help much.
Reloading the Jet shouldn't be much differnet than a Hornet, just go easy so you don't crush the necks, I suppose.
FBA's website doesn't seem to exist anymore...(401) 647-4867
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Old 04-07-2011, 11:32 AM
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remington is the only producer of the brass,some others are loading ammo. there hasn't been any new remington ammo for about 25yrs. now. you will see it at gunshows from time to time either rediculously expensive or dirt cheap,depending on the knowledge of the seller. it takes a .222 or .223 diameter bullet for loading. i use the .223 sierra hornet bullets in my jets and have had good luck with them. even with a light handload the noise is impressive. never shoot one without ear protection. to actively shoot a jet you must reload. lubing cases is a must so it's like loading for a rifle. die set-up is critical, as is a tight mouth for the bullet to rest in. you will have to trim after 3-4 loads with anything close to a factory speed round. they are my favorite s&w gun to go play with. have owned around 25 of them over the years and still have several.
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Default THANKS !

thank you very much for the replay and the info !
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Old 04-11-2011, 01:15 PM
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Default any ammo manufacturerers ?

are there any companies that produce factory-loaded ammo for the 0.22 jet handgun ?
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Several shooters on the Forum have used this ammo and have said it is very good...better than having to pay $75-100 a box for Remington...

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Old 04-11-2011, 01:41 PM
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Midway has Remington and Graf & Sons has PRVI brass (never tried their brass but ammo is good).
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Question explanation please ?

hello friends !
since i am not english speaker from birth please explain :
are the companies mentiond actualy produce ammonition for the 0.22 jet or only brass cases or they re-load used cases ?
does remington produce jet shels and sell it for 75-100$ a box?
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Old 04-12-2011, 07:25 AM
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Reed's is loaded ammo...the rest I believe is just brass... Remington has not made any .22 Jet for many many years...

Click on Reed's link above to see the ammo...

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The other alternative is to find an appropriate .22 LR cylinder or chamber inserts for your Jet. The factory will not have them for your gun but they can be found, depending on your country's gun laws. If you want to shoot full-power loads reloading would be the best option as others have noted.
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believe jets are loaded by a couple of the smaller reload outfits. the market now is very small and those who shoot jets reload there own. the remington and prvi are both brass only not ammo. best thing is to start loading if you don't already. don't know about your laws though.
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Question prvi partizan ammo - any expereance ?

i heard that prvi-partizan from serbia (ex-yoguslavia) are manufacturing the 0.22 jet ammo they call it '' o.22 remington jet magnum'' does any one have comments abut it ?
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...don't know about their .22 Jet ammo but their .223/.308/9mm and .45 are excellent.....

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Default inserts for 0.22 magnum

are there inserts for 0.22 magnum cartridges ?
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Old 04-16-2011, 08:03 PM
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Default 0.22 JET AMMO

Hello,
I am a Jet fan also. I have bought new ammo from The Old Western Scrounger and had good luck with it. He has it as Model: 6560 for $49.95 for 50 rounds
I bought two boxes when I got my first Jet. It was good freshly-loaded ammo and gave good brass for reloads. It grouped fairly well, but the Jet is VERY bullet sensitive. Midway just did a run of brass for the Jet. They still have some. It is Remington brass. 50 new empties for $54.99, Product #: 660147. Might want to get some quick. they only make it every few years.
Reloading is the only way to go, unless you have excess cash. You must use good dies. Single-loading on a Bonanza Co-Ax works well for me. I will not attempt to use my Dillon RL550B progressive, due to brass loss from neck failures. I prefer Rifle primers due to the high pressures. The S&W shoots well as long as you keep the chambers dry.
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hello sir.
when saying you used .223 slugs what weight were they ? is it o.k. to use 65 grain slugs ? will they make '' key-holeing'' ?
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use only 40 or 45 grain bullets when loading for a jet. the heavier bullets will not stabilize and i know of no reloading data for them. use only .222 or .223 diameter bullets. i have heard of people using .224 bullets in lighter weights,but i wouldn't. you can use std. small rifle or small magnum pistol primers. once you get this gun running, it will be worth all the additional trouble. they are my favorite gun to shoot. as mentioned,make sure chambers are totally dry before shooting. i use a cleaning patch with alcohol or lighter fluid works too. good luck with your jet.
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Default thanks !

thank you sir for the importent information !
since i have wery little knowledge in the field of reloading, i will apriciate any pice of info abut it !
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O.G., there should be a bunch of info in the reloading forum about Jet reloading. I am not good at finding such things myself, or I would point it out to you.

One thing I can share with you about Jet reloading is that I really do not recommend it for a novice. It can be done, but the Jet is probably the most difficult pistol cartridge I can think of to make satisfactory cartridges for, and it seems to leave very little room for errors. If you do decide to reload your Jet cartridges, be very careful. If possible, try to find someone experienced in handloading to work with until you feel comfortable with what you are doing. Jets can be easily damaged and the damage is usually fatal to the cylinder of the gun.

A Jet is really a poor place to take up the handloading hobby, but a careful man can do it.
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HELLO !
i own a 53 model in 0.22 jet cal. can anyone tell me abut manufacturers of this round ?
or abut reloading it ?
thanks in advance
O.G.
Considering you are seeing prices of $75-$100 a box reloading is probably a good idea. The good news is the .22 Jet is made from a necked down .357 Magnum cases. With prices like that for loaded ammo it would be well worth contacting RCBS for forming dies and resize all the .357 Magnum brass you will ever need for loading the .22 Jet. The original .22 Jet used a 40gr .224" bullet and was loaded to ~2450-2460 fps. There are plenty of 40gr .224" bullets available so components shouldn't be a problem since you have the brass and bullets easily covered. Powders are the same as used in the .357 Magnum too. You can use H110/W296, 4227 and probably get really good performance from Hodgdon Lil'Gun too.
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Default thanks !

thank you friends for the info and the time and care to assist me !
at first i will start with re-loading .22 jet brass, after that only i will hopfully try to size down .357 brass.
when i will need assistence i am confident that one or more of the nice people in this forum will help me- god bless ypu all !!!
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Jets are fun, but the huge hang up is the availability of ammo. Almost all of us reload, and the few who don't pay someone to do it for them. Shooting factory ammo is just too expensive.

I find it regularly at gun shows near me. If you don't have access to that kind of venue, you're out of luck.

Over the years I've accumulated a pretty impressive stockpile of the ammo. The trick is to always be looking and then be quick with your money. I prefer the .222 Hornady bullets, but they're not easy to find either.

A misconception from a poster above. Yes, you will be lubing your cases before resizing them. But then you'll need to wipe them down to remove all the lube before loading and shooting. If you don't, you'll experience case setback, which can easily lock up the gun. Trust me. I don't shoot full power/factory duplication loads. I load them down just a bit. Just as loud, just as accurate, but less wear on the hard to find brass.
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Default DENTS IN THE CASES-AFTER RE-SIZEING ?

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i tried to re-size some cases using 2 die set by RCBS
i checked the vent-hole in the die it was free
i lubed the cases with grafhite-grease lightly
but more then 50% of the cases got vertical-dents
i would like to have explenation how to avoid such dents
i think not to use those dented cases - am i right ?
thanks for your answers- good people,
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Default .22 Jet Case Dents

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The dents will iron out on firing. Try some spray-on Case Lube, such as the stuff Hornady sells. It looks like WD-40 on the case, but it isn't thick enough to make a dent. Might also take the decapper out and clean your die with Hoppes on a pistol brush with a patch wrapped around it to make sure it is clean and dry. Those small cases don't need a lot of lubricant.
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Default light oil is better ?

hi
i used graphite grease now i under stand that light-oil like sawing-machin oil is better, is it better to lube every case or only once in 2 or 3 cases-i use regular dies not carbide ones.
are you sure that the dents will not cause cracks in shooting?
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Default .22 Jet Case Dents

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You really need to use the purpose-made sizing-die spray-on lubes only. Put the cases is a plastic pan and spray all over them, then roll them around in the residue. It isn't as thick as the stuff you are talking about. After sizing, either tumble the cases, or put them in a cotton towel and roll them around to remove the sizing lube. The Hornady Lube is like Lighter-Fluid, very thin. It works great. Thicker lubes cause the dents. I have had them in a few of my rifles occasionally, from using too much sizing lube paste. They always iron out. When fired, the case expands. You can't get Carbide dies for a bottleneck cartridge like the Jet, so you need to use real sizing lube.
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Default thanks for the knoweldge !

thank you sir.
your explenation gave me importent knowledge and the right way in lubing cases !
thanks a lot !
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Default reload chart for 630 powder (BY WIN. olin)

hello friends !
i want to use the 630 smpkless-powder by winchester
to load the 22 jet and the 7.63x25 mauser cartridges
do you have sugestions concerning the weight of the powder?

another qustion : can i use havey sluges (68 grain) for the jet cartridge ?

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Graf and sons have Prvi Brass. I use it. Also Stars and Stripes Custom Ammo out of Fl. has loaded ammo using 357 mag brass necked down. I have shot some of it and seems to be ok. Phone # 954- 917- 1129. That is off the box.
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OG Do you have the inserts for the 22 jet? They allow you to shoot the less expensive .22 LR ammo and are also a lot of fun. If however, you are looking for the big bang, then obviously you need to either find some old Remington ammo or empty cases and reload them. I have purchased jet brass over the years and have several hundred empty cases. Gun shows are great around here for that but you may not have that option where you live. Good luck and keep us posted on your success. Photos of you and the jet at your shooting range would be interersting as well.

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you cannot use bullets of 68gr. weight. just to heavy and won't stabilize in the rifling. use only bullets of 40 or 45 gr weight. the original ammo made by remington used a 40gr bullet that was .222 diameter. either use that diameter or .223. i would stay away from all .224 diameter bullets in this cartridge, although there are some who use the lighter weight ones and say they work.if you don't already have loading manuals,please get at least two and read them carefully and fully understand all the procedures before trying to reload this cartridge. as for your powder you asked about, it must be a european number. for faster loads try 2400 or 4227. for light loads, i use hs-6 at the starting load level.
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i want to use the 630 smokeless-powder by winchester
to load the 22 jet and the 7.63x25 mauser cartridges
do you have sugestions concerning the weight of the powder?
My question to you is, where did you get W630? That powder hasn't been manufactured in a long time! (something like 35 years or so)
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as with most of the Winchester powders in the time frame W630 was discontinued because it was very temperature sensitive. the other powders of the era were 230 , 295 & 680 for the same reason no longer made.
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I have 11 boxes of Rem 22 "jet" and 70 loose rounds. I also have some brass. If there is any interest send me an email at wgay1@juno.com.
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thanks but it is impossible to import such quantity to my country due to curent lawes
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Default what abut 20 grain bullet ?

hello everybody !
after useing 42 grain bullets, i wonder what will happen with 20 grain ?
does anyone have expirience with it ? will they be stable ?
what abut the powder charge, any sugestions ?
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