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Old 02-08-2013, 09:46 PM
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I've seen CCI brass 115 gr 9mm, 1000 rounds, sell for $450 plus shipping... 124gr sell for nealry $600...

I'm having a tough time believing those sales... nuff said.

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Old 02-10-2013, 12:37 AM
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With the quantity of 600 rounds per year training and the quantity on order, I tend to think there are WAY too many agents on payroll and too many departments that are carrying sidearms. I mean IRS????? How ridiculous is that since they can get any of your money they want without holding a shotgun to your face.DHS is working it's way up to being the Brown shirt brigade for a runaway government that is doing little to curb the infestation of illegal immigration of who knows what types of individuals.


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If you go behind the fear mongering stories, you'll find that most of the contracts are for several years. The annual amount of ammo isn't that huge.

One government agency's purchase seem huge, until you divide by the number of armed agents and realize it's only about 600 rounds a year for each. To a lot of shooters, buying that many JHPs seems odd, until you realize many agencies train and qualify with what they carry.
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Old 02-10-2013, 12:42 AM
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At the local gun show today most all ammo was priced at 2 X last months pricing. 223 ammo was routinely $1 a round , 22 ammo in 500/525 bricks $50-$60 when all last year could be bought for $20.I've been surprised at how shallow the inventory has been at all major dealers from ammo to reloading supplies. Powder and primers all gone . Most wholesalers could count their inventory on one hand for those items.LOL.


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I've seen CCI brass 115 gr 9mm, 1000 rounds, sell for $450 plus shipping... 124gr sell for nealry $600...

I'm having a tough time believing those sales... nuff said.

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Old 02-10-2013, 04:46 PM
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I think a good part of the frenzy is the "speculators" who buy at Walmart, et al and resell for 4 to 5 times original price. Look at all the stories of LGS buying ALL the Walmart supply since the distributors can't supply their needed amounts. I'll bet that 80% of the sellers on graigslist don't even own a gun - it's just become the "easy" money play. Invest $1000 and turn it into $4000 and up in just days. Then when somebody can't get their "normal" purchase they fall into the frenzy and purchase 10X what they would have bought.
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Old 02-14-2013, 11:56 PM
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As far as Uncle Sam's ammo purchase, the military was stockpiling in anticipation of the potential spending cuts that would have hit them if the vote hadn't backed us off the fiscal cliff.
The US Military does not use 40 S&W, not in any significant quantity anyway.

The huge ammo purchasing referred to was for 40 S&W.

Now, who uses that...?
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Old 02-15-2013, 11:26 AM
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Saw this Why is the Department of Homeland Security buying so many bullets? | Fox News

But it still doesn't answer why there's a shortage. Since they use about the same amount of ammo a year, then they shouldn't be stockpiling or it shouldn't create a shortage for everyone else. This is common and normal, so why the shortage?
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Old 02-15-2013, 12:52 PM
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Because there are people who, apparently, don't have jobs/lives otherwise or something who can be there when the stores open to buy it all up before those of with jobs/lives are able to get there to get one or two boxes.
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Because there are people who, apparently, don't have jobs/lives otherwise or something who can be there when the stores open to buy it all up before those of with jobs/lives are able to get there to get one or two boxes.
Just a note: I have a job, but I work from home. So I am able to keep up on this stuff and order when I see it. So don't pigeon hole everyone.
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Old 02-15-2013, 03:14 PM
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Just a note: I have a job, but I work from home. So I am able to keep up on this stuff and order when I see it. So don't pigeon hole everyone.
Sorry about that. Just get frustrated every now and then when you can't walk into a store and buy a box of ammo because there were "30 people waiting when we opened" or "One guy bought it all last night when we took it off the truck".
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How many here six months ago would normally buy one or two boxes of ammunition at a time but lately when you see any buy 5 or 10 boxes or whatever the traffic will bear? How many of you usually only stock one or two boxes in the house but find yourself making a weekly (or daily?) swing by the usual places and pick up "just a little extra"?

Be honest.

Now figuring that there are about 50 million gun owners in the U.S. doing the same thing you are and there's your answer.

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I don't have much money, so I have just been searching online. I really think online you have a better chance finding the ammo you need at a decent price. Going to LGS isn't bad either.

But I have been searching, waiting for a good price. Found some 9mm for 28cents/round yesterday (1000 rounds), shipment got here today (NICE!). If I would've waited 1 hour, I found some 9mm for 20cents/round. I got too excited.
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It's just to painful to witness... clearly folks are using Gun Broker to "flip" ammo. I've seen the CCI mini-mag 22lr (1600 ammo can) show up several times, as well as Blazer 9mm and WWB... which is what wally world carries.

The CCI mini-mags, sold for $245.00 dollar... I only paid 109 shipped from the original source.

I have not seen any 9mm (1000) rounds sell for less then $400-425 dollars... and thats down right criminal
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The US Military does not use 40 S&W, not in any significant quantity anyway.

The huge ammo purchasing referred to was for 40 S&W.

Now, who uses that...?
DHS uses .40 - Border Patrol, ICE and a lot of others. My neighbor is BP and he gets an allotment of boxes of Federal HST & Gold Dots every month or so for 'training' Sometimes it's Ranger-T.
I see a lot of this white boxed ammo being re-sold at local garage sales, flea market tables and gun shows for extra cash. At the local range, over on the closed area the BP/ICE uses, the ground is littered with nickle empties with the familiar head stamp.
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Old 02-16-2013, 12:13 AM
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OK, blame me. Last night we finally got around to listening to the voice mail and my mother needed something from Wallyworld. It was 10:00 and there was nothing on TV except that stupid Sherlock Holmes thing. So I told my wife I'd drive her there right now. So off we went. And after buying what we'd gone for, I decided to enter the freak show part and look at their ammo case. It was locked. No one at the store knew who had the key, if anyone. But there on the floor were cases just brought out from the back room! I was third in line. The two guys in front of me were normal guys. Then the two behind us were pretty much hillbillies, but having a good time. Then along came a nice couple (she was a babe of the first order). So the one guy who apparently could also be a cashier said he could sell the ammo he had out, but only 3 boxes to a customer.

My wife counted, too. The guys behind me wanted 12 gauge, as I did. But in the half hour we burned, no one came up with the key. So I had enough time invested and my wife bought 3 boxes of .223. Oh, she doesn't own one and neither do I! But the son's both do. I should have bought 3 myself, but we finally gave up and left. So I'm undecided if I should give them away or just sell them at the next gun show.

And during the painful wait for the key, one of the guys in front of me asked where all the 550 packs of 22s went. So I just said "they're all in my basement". So at least now I've got 60 rounds of .223. And I don't feel bad about it at all. I'm more worthy than those who weren't hanging out at Wallyworld after 10:00 PM.
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But I have been searching, waiting for a good price. Found some 9mm for 28cents/round yesterday (1000 rounds), shipment got here today (NICE!). If I would've waited 1 hour, I found some 9mm for 20cents/round. I got too excited.
And if you tell me where you bought this ammo and where I can find .20 cents per round 9mm I'll go buy as much as they have!!

I am part of the problem...

I found brand new MM&P AR-15s for $750 (I posted about this a couple days ago) and I bought the two I was allowed to buy. I don't want two AR's, but at that price I know I can flip one for double the price and keep one for free.

I bought all the .22 ammo I found on the shelf at the local Fleet Farm when I found it for $1.69 a box. I have thousands of rounds of .22 already, but it's really hard to find now so if I find some I'm buying it.

I ordered 6 BX-25 mags from Ruger. I don't want the mags, but they are selling for $80 - $100 each on GB! I will keep two and sell the rest for a 300% profit.

Before this thing calms down we need to see people stop paying the inflated prices for guns, ammo and magazines.

People are going to sell at whatever price others are willing to pay.
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Well, they may not be black ones but the helicopters fly over my house every hour of the day and night. Maybe it is because I live in the flight path for the Marine's New River Air Station (MCAS-H New River), here in Jacksonville, NC.

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I have talked to both Walmart and Dicks Sporting Goods corporate offices today and both have told me that they have not ordered any ammo since the shooting at Sandy Hook. They said that they weren't either until they find out what obama is going to do. It could be a while. Same goes for rifles
This is the same thing I am being told here in Upstate New York.
Why is it some deranged fool goes into a school and kills innocent children and we have to pay the price to have our gun rights infringed.
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