Smith & Wesson Forum

Go Back   Smith & Wesson Forum > Ammunition-Gunsmithing > Ammo

Notices

Ammo All Ammo Discussions Go Here


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 01-21-2013, 08:48 PM
Jetpilot007's Avatar
Jetpilot007 Jetpilot007 is offline
SWCA Member
Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY  
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: New York State
Posts: 614
Likes: 22
Liked 307 Times in 129 Posts
Default Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY

Is there a deadline to purchase online as in 4/15?
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 01-21-2013, 09:12 PM
hfl73 hfl73 is offline
Member
Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY  
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Upstate New York
Posts: 60
Likes: 7
Liked 17 Times in 12 Posts
Default

The information @ Gun Reforms 2013 Initiatives - Frequently Asked Questions | Governor Andrew M. Cuomo website states the ammunition background checks won't take place until January 15,2014.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 01-21-2013, 09:12 PM
Model39 Model39 is offline
SWCA Member
Absent Comrade
Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY  
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Fairport, New York
Posts: 1,155
Likes: 154
Liked 3,461 Times in 489 Posts
Unhappy No more online sales.

No more online sales allowed in NY. I have several friends who have tried to purchase ammo online and have been told no more internet sales. It is in the 41 page NY Safety Act Law.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 01-21-2013, 09:24 PM
Moonman Moonman is offline
Member
Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY  
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Northeast Ohio
Posts: 4,273
Likes: 3,043
Liked 1,791 Times in 932 Posts
Default

How about a Federal Court "INTERSTATE COMMERCE" Court Challenge?
__________________
NRA Pistol/Rifle Inst. RSO
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 01-21-2013, 09:30 PM
Titegroups Titegroups is offline
Member
Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY  
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Florida
Posts: 1,338
Likes: 65
Liked 247 Times in 166 Posts
Default

Plenty of houses for sale in Florida.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #6  
Old 01-21-2013, 09:34 PM
358156hp 358156hp is offline
Member
Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY  
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Nebraska
Posts: 728
Likes: 97
Liked 224 Times in 149 Posts
Default



Time to escape from New York
Reply With Quote
The Following 5 Users Like Post:
  #7  
Old 01-21-2013, 09:42 PM
Jetpilot007's Avatar
Jetpilot007 Jetpilot007 is offline
SWCA Member
Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY  
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: New York State
Posts: 614
Likes: 22
Liked 307 Times in 129 Posts
Default

I researched the NY Commie Gun Control Law.

Since this is a STATE law, out of state vendors of ammo are not subject to the NYS jurisdiction UNLESS these dealers desire to engage in commerce with the State of New York. Since it would be a burdernsome process, dealers will SIMPLY OPT OUT AND AND NOT CONDUCT ANY COMMERCE IN THE SALE OF AMMUNITION.

Dealers have until January 15, 2014 to register to engage in the sale of ammunition. It will certainly be a ghost town for out of state vendors. I have heard several vendors have stopped selling to NYS already. These STUPID POLITICANS INCLUDING ANDREW CUOMO HAVE ALREADY DESTROYED INTERSTATE COMMERCE WITH RESPECT TO THE SALE OF AMMUNITION. STATES WILL NOT DEAL WITH THESE DRACONIAN RESTRICTIONS.

Here is a question to ponder: What of orders placed subsequent to January 15, 2013 i.e. backorder being filled?

Looks like the burden is on the seller of ammunition
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 01-21-2013, 10:12 PM
Jetpilot007's Avatar
Jetpilot007 Jetpilot007 is offline
SWCA Member
Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY  
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: New York State
Posts: 614
Likes: 22
Liked 307 Times in 129 Posts
Default

I sincerely hope this law is challenged in the courts!!
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #9  
Old 01-21-2013, 10:22 PM
df53141 df53141 is offline
Banned
Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY  
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 164
Likes: 42
Liked 86 Times in 47 Posts
Default

If you are still dumb enough to be in NYS, every time you go to another state, buy ammo and bring them home!
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 01-21-2013, 11:57 PM
Titegroups Titegroups is offline
Member
Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY  
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Florida
Posts: 1,338
Likes: 65
Liked 247 Times in 166 Posts
Default

I didnt see anything about reloading components when I scanned through the new laws. I think it might become as popular as medical marijuana.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 01-22-2013, 12:35 AM
Titegroups Titegroups is offline
Member
Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY  
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Florida
Posts: 1,338
Likes: 65
Liked 247 Times in 166 Posts
Default

Stupid is as.....
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 01-22-2013, 05:09 AM
ArchAngelCD's Avatar
ArchAngelCD ArchAngelCD is offline
Moderator
SWCA Member
Absent Comrade
Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY  
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Northeast PA, USA
Posts: 8,877
Likes: 1,029
Liked 5,070 Times in 2,660 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Moonman View Post
How about a Federal Court "INTERSTATE COMMERCE" Court Challenge?
This administration uses the Commerce Clause to ram everything down out throats including the health care law but this they say nothing about!

It is my sincere hope every online ammo dealer refuses to sell NY State any ammo for their use since they can't sell to the people.

Barrett did it to California. When the California government banned sales of their 50 Cal rifles in their state Ron Barrett refused to fill an order for several 50 Cal rifles placed by law enforcement. He told them he can't stay in business only selling to law enforcement and if he can't sell in California he won't break the law by selling to anyone on CA.

Sig also did something similar. When CA told them to add this or remove that from their handguns they told CA not to try and tell them how to design their guns. They don't sell to CA either unless the design already meets the CA requirements without modifications.

Two great companies doing the right thing, I only hope the ammo companies take their lead and refuse to sell ammo to anyone in NYS if they can't sell to the common people.
__________________
Freedom is never free!!
SWCA #3437
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 01-22-2013, 07:15 AM
k53 k53 is offline
Member
Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY  
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: upstate NY
Posts: 186
Likes: 4
Liked 21 Times in 12 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Titegroups View Post
I didnt see anything about reloading components when I scanned through the new laws. I think it might become as popular as medical marijuana.
Ive read and read it, looking for something that said you cant mail order reloading supplys. I didnt see anything. Im kinda afraid to ask though!!!! Granted... there are so little amounts of primers and powders out there, its hardly worth researching it. It suks though...and more so becouse all the big shooters, and ammo buyers now need to go to the local stores... what is good for the shops, but bad for the little guy that wants a box or two, becouse it will take that much longer to get the ammo shelves full agean. I dont have the cash to buy cases of ammo. I stock up when I have a few bucks in my pocket. So far it had worked well for me, and has allowed me to have enough to shoot, and a little extra added to back stock... well if we are looking at a year with empty shelves... Its going to be tough in NY.. But im sure thats what the plan was.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 01-22-2013, 10:17 AM
Jetpilot007's Avatar
Jetpilot007 Jetpilot007 is offline
SWCA Member
Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY  
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: New York State
Posts: 614
Likes: 22
Liked 307 Times in 129 Posts
Default

I've read the new law and there is no mention of reloading supplies being banned.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 11-04-2013, 02:52 AM
ojapan ojapan is offline
Member
Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY  
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 2
Likes: 1
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

True. You can purchase powder, 1 lb and 8 lb.
Primers, box of 50.
at Cabela's. They have to limit because many people have to be rationed out
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 11-04-2013, 02:53 AM
ojapan ojapan is offline
Member
Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY  
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 2
Likes: 1
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Brownells is good for brass, no primers though
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 11-04-2013, 06:46 AM
blujax01's Avatar
blujax01 blujax01 is offline
Member
Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY  
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: C-Bus
Posts: 6,335
Likes: 4,311
Liked 4,916 Times in 2,086 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by k53 View Post
Ive read and read it, looking for something that said you cant mail order reloading supplys. I didnt see anything. Im kinda afraid to ask though!!!! Granted... there are so little amounts of primers and powders out there, its hardly worth researching it. It suks though...and more so becouse all the big shooters, and ammo buyers now need to go to the local stores... what is good for the shops, but bad for the little guy that wants a box or two, becouse it will take that much longer to get the ammo shelves full agean. I dont have the cash to buy cases of ammo. I stock up when I have a few bucks in my pocket. So far it had worked well for me, and has allowed me to have enough to shoot, and a little extra added to back stock... well if we are looking at a year with empty shelves... Its going to be tough in NY.. But im sure thats what the plan was.
You know....

How far are you from Ohio?

I was born in Buffalo and it was called "Upstate New York". On the off chance you're in that area you are only a few hours away from the free state of Ohio. Google "Fin, Feather and Fur". They are an independent with arguably the best assortment of reloading supplies you will see on the planet. I was in the Ashland store last week. They are very well stocked.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 11-04-2013, 08:50 PM
dw1911 dw1911 is offline
Member
Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY  
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 58
Likes: 1
Liked 5 Times in 4 Posts
Default

they tried that in CA and failed...thank god.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 11-04-2013, 09:19 PM
YeshuaIsa53's Avatar
YeshuaIsa53 YeshuaIsa53 is offline
SWCA Member
Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY  
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: SE USA
Posts: 2,463
Likes: 4,476
Liked 1,918 Times in 868 Posts
Default

Get the guys phone number and order it from a phone.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 11-05-2013, 01:24 AM
ArchAngelCD's Avatar
ArchAngelCD ArchAngelCD is offline
Moderator
SWCA Member
Absent Comrade
Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY  
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Northeast PA, USA
Posts: 8,877
Likes: 1,029
Liked 5,070 Times in 2,660 Posts
Default

You guys do realize this thread is almost a year old already, right. I'm sure the OP found out what the new laws will be especially since it's already 7 months past what he thought was going to be the deadline date.
__________________
Freedom is never free!!
SWCA #3437
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 11-05-2013, 09:24 PM
HeyJoe's Avatar
HeyJoe HeyJoe is offline
Member
Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY  
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: New York
Posts: 522
Likes: 926
Liked 335 Times in 174 Posts
Default

nothing has been settled as far as ammo goes or the rest of this poorly thought out and poorly written rush job of a law. the ny state police will not make the january 2014 deadline to come up with a system to perform backround checks for ammo so their will not be any backround checks for how long who knows. as far as how this will affect buying ammo online being that the backround check part will not be ready, no one knows. the online companies will most likely not ship to us after january 2014 even though the law will be delayed. many companies and individuals who sell firearms and ammo have turned their back on us already even though it is perfectly legal to buy what they are selling. i have seen many gunbroker ads where the individual will not even sell a 5 shot revolver to someone here. the court cases continue, but with the reluctance of the supreme court to take any may issue cases or other gun control cases i am not very optimistic.
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 11-05-2013, 09:42 PM
moosedog moosedog is online now
SWCA Member
Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY  
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Michigan
Posts: 7,863
Likes: 11,824
Liked 13,809 Times in 3,357 Posts
Default

What's to worry? Only three more years to go.
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 11-09-2013, 11:13 PM
sw282's Avatar
sw282 sw282 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: CSRA
Posts: 2,125
Likes: 869
Liked 1,629 Times in 779 Posts
Default

3 more years and then.........Hilda Beast in 2016 :-(
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 11-11-2013, 10:53 AM
Zjnovak's Avatar
Zjnovak Zjnovak is offline
Member
Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY Deadline to Purchase Online ammo in NY  
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Milwaukee WI
Posts: 321
Likes: 9
Liked 46 Times in 36 Posts
Default

Well... we could always just cross them off the map

Sent from my Android using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Model 1955 Online Auction purchase murdock23 S&W Hand Ejectors: 1896 to 1961 14 11-28-2017 08:06 AM
Reputable manufactures / websites for bulk online ammo purchase kennnethk Ammo 28 02-26-2015 08:53 PM
First Online Gun Purchase - Smith and Wesson Shield Dgunnut Smith & Wesson M&P Pistols 9 12-08-2014 11:38 PM
The Online Gun Purchase Loophole?? GCF 2nd Amendment Forum 29 10-31-2013 03:39 PM
Refumds for online purchase returns JOERM The Lounge 1 04-11-2012 04:37 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
smith-wessonforum.com tested by Norton Internet Security smith-wessonforum.com tested by McAfee Internet Security

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:07 AM.


Smith-WessonForum.com is not affiliated with Smith & Wesson Holding Corporation (NASDAQ Global Select: SWHC)