I had my new to me model 58 out to the range last nite:



The seller had included a box of of Cor-Bon JHPs with the gun. I sent a couple down range, woo-hoo those little pills have a lotta oomph. compared to the SWCs IO had been shooting. This is going to be my favored woods carry gun and ammo. If those Cor-Bons don't stop it I will just have to run.

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Jim
Many K and N Frames

Way to go!

I really like letting off a little steam with some serious 41 mag loads. It looks like you have the right grips for it too....the original magna grips are brutal with hot loads....and if you ever entertained the idea of stag grips with extra bark.....well, just don't go there....

Happy shooting

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On the Oak Savannah

I've been learning the same lessons with my 41s. The 58 with a set of Jordan Troopers is not bad will full house loads but you know you have a handful. I was trying some Underwood hunting loads and they're lively. They're probably pretty close to the Cor Bon. It seems to me this is the voice of wisdom: "and if you ever entertained the idea of stag grips with extra bark.....well, just don't go there...." Made me chuckle.

My Blackhawk is OK with the SWCs but it beat the hell out of my knuckle shooting the Underwood loads. Just not enough space between my knuckle and the trigger guard. It's very accurate but I think I'm going to trip it in favor of the 57 and 58.

Enjoy your 58! I am very impressed with mine. It handles well, is accurate, and I love its simplicity. They're definitely keepers.

.....and that is why we have this: The 'unofficial' 58 Club


We'll see you there

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On the Oak Savannah

hard to beat a 41 mag.but.....reload your ammo!

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KK4EMO

Repeating myself, but does anyone remember that old saw from the 60s that the 58 was less strong than the 57 and should be restricted to the lead SWC loads only? George Nonte put the lie to that in 1973...

I have never heard that rumor.....where did it come from? what was the basis?

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Beats me! Don't know your age, but there were (was?)more than one chestnut like this back in the 60s. Another: snub .357s (back then, the M-19 and Colt Python) were of no value because the short bbls 'wasted' powder and velocities were 'too low.' A hand-loaded 6" .38 would produce higher MVs. Tell that to plainclothes cops who were heavy-hitters and needed more punch before the +P era.

More? Factory rifle hunting loads were no good because they were inaccurate and handloaders could load these rounds to substantially higher velocities. Also, nobody who knew anything used factory rifle ammo...

More? .30-30 carbines were of no use; a scoped .30-06 rifle hit harder and farther. No mention of dense brush, medium range shots, or how handily the lever carbine carries. I believe over 6 million Model 94s have been built? In this vein, the .30 M1 carbine was no good as it was less powerful and accurate than a .30-06. Apples-to-oranges.

Still with me? Magnum rifle hunting rounds were too loud, held too much powder ('over-bore'), and thus were unnecessary. They required a 24" bbl (horrors) as opposed to the 22" of non-belted rounds. The .264 Winchester Mag was virtually destroyed by such claptrap.

Almost forgot! The .44 Mag was deemed uncontrollable in a revolver as the kick was brutal. Result: many allowed themselves to believe this and sold their 29s after 6 rounds... The Government auto was difficult to shoot and also harsh in the recoil department, as was attested to by GIs returning from WWII military service (yet savvy pistoleros, mostly Western LEOs had been using the gun effectively for over 40 years at that point).

SAFireman, it was not easy reading gun magazines back then. There was no Internet or rapid communication to challenge this foolishness. And who would take exception to these truths? Fortunately, the 70s brought a group of younger writers and also more interest in practical shooting, which continues today.

SAFireman, thank you for journeying back with me in time. Wasn't all bad: there was no GCA68 for most of the decade. Stay safe partner.

Kaaskop49
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Which CorBon load were you using...the 170, 210 or 250 hardcast?

Bob

I was not even a twinkle in my dad's eyes in the 60's....I guess that every writer is entitled to their own opinion (even if it is wrong). I guess that there never has really been a good way to enforce responsible journalism. Now that we have the internet, most of these articles have the space for comments (online anyhow), and I am certain that anyone spouting that foolishness can be rapidly admonished by even the most meek internet commando.

I do remember going to to pretty big gun show with my dad in the mid to late 80's and seeing a bunch of the Colt Delta Elites sitting there for mere pennies and nobody would have anything to do with them because the 10mm was too hot for the FBI....Now the 10mm and 41 mag are some of my all-time favorite calibers. Too hot? my left foot



It has been a pleasure sharing your memories, thanks for that.


...and my apologies to Jim for drifting so far off track....back to the 41 mag goodness

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