So my local had the federal 325 pk for $14.27 not long ago. Today it was $18.97!!!! That seems like a huge price increase in a short time.

Doesn't matter around here. A bit of rifle ammo and a few shotgun shells is all they have. I check once in awhile when ever I go by.

I'm not sure where you have been over the past 8 months or so but this has been going on since Christmas 2012. In reality I have not seen any 22LR ammo in my area for months.

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Wal-Mart has kept their prices the same since last December instead of raising them to reflect the prices every other ammunition seller in the country was charging. They could have greatly increased their profit margin by increasing prices for the product they sold during the time of massive shortages in this country, but they did not.

Now you begrudge them for what seems to be a totally reasonable price increase inline with standard business practices. They have been more than fair. If you don't like their business practices, shop elsewhere.

Over 30% increase in only a month or 2 is huge. Im just pointing out the increase.

I think I read there was an expected 20% increase from the manufacturers so...

Wow. He was just stating there was an increase and you got all defensive. Easy bigboy

Heck! I'd buy the .22lr at that price. My wally world had ZERO stock of the .22 this am. I did find some .17hmr Winchester. There were six boxes of 50. I got two. Its the first WM ammo I have purchased since last Oct/Nov.

My local shop, which used to have the best prices around now wants $45 for a brick of CCI SV and $32 for a 325 Federal .22 value pack.

Chris

De ja vu all over again
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I hit Walmart in the afternoon last Wednesday and got the one brick of 550 Remingtons that they had for $22. That was the first time I had seen any 22s in WM in quite a while. I've been buying the 40rd boxes at Academy for $1.97 (limit 1) so it is beginning to get back out there.

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I have not seen any .22 at our 3 walmarts since the election

I noticed the jump in Federal Auto Match 22's from Walmart about a month ago. I think the increase might be traced back to Federal and not Walmart, though I could be mistaken. At about 6 cents per round I can live with it.

Price doesn't much matter when the shelves are stripped almost all the time. I've stopped bothering with Wally-World. Store employees hold back a lot of the ammo for themselves and their friends, the rest is snatched up by the same dozen guys who come every morning at 7:00 to grab what's put out in the case, then list it on the internet. I buy from Cabela's and Palmetto State and save myself the aggravation.

Walmart is no different than most companies in one regard-contracts. I think the old one ran out so you renegotiate a new one with each company as they do so. Inevitable

$18.97 and ur complaining.

There are idiots around here paying $50+ for bricks. And the funny thing is they can drive to wal-mart at any time and buy it for under $20.

I don't ever think prices will ever return to pre election prices in the future and right now it's very difficult to find any ammo and especially 22LR. I paid $24 a 325 pack a few months ago and I was just happy to get it and I got 3.

I have seen the federal 325 packs at Walmart several times since they went from 14.00 to almost 19.00.

Friday night I went to buy .45 that showed up and there was 6 boxes of it setting on the counter.

They set on the shelves and dont sell near as fast as they did at 14.00.

At .06 a round they are still cheaper then most anything available.

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What a lot of the people waiting for the "good ol days" to return fail to realize is that manufacturing prices for the materials used in ammo have went through the roof the last few years.

Lead, copper and brass = $$$$$$

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Everything federal went up.

9mm .40 .45 .223 and 22lr.

Shotgun shells even had a price increase.

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Funny, over the last 4 months, price's at my local wallychina have gone up quite a bit on ammo.

Eric

my local walmart literaly has nothing in stock but some shotgun shells(and even then only birdshot) and some 30-06 and 270

Here in my neck of the woods, South Eastern KY. "London" getting any 22 LR at Wally World within about a 50 mile radius has been nearly impossible since Dec. The few LGS that I have found some in have raised their prices from 50% to 100% of the pre-panic prices. I personally thought things would be better by now. IMO the problem might get worse. If the Reps. lose the house in 2014 the stuff might really hit the fan all around for us shooters, and if Hillary gets in The white House in 2016......that will almost surely be bad news. As ****** as it is if I see 22LR that I can buy right then and there for 20-30% higher that it was a year ago I buy what I can while the getting is good. Just my opinion folks. Bob

I asked the guy at the gun department at Walmart about "holding back ammo for themselves and their friends". He told me that would result in immediate termination if they got caught. The employees where I go seem to take the situation very seriously, maybe it's different where you are.

I know of one that was caught. Bingo-gone. I think in some places it happens still though.

Central MA...I've been looking for .22lr pretty hard for 8-10 weeks. I finally found two 18.97 325 packs at one WM on Monday and was happy to buy them... the clerk said they had gotten 15 in that morning...I bought the last two that evening (not sure why two, with a three box limit )

On a hunch, I hit another local WM the following noontime. they had two 325s in the case... I went to the dept next door looking for a clerk, was back in like three minutes and there was another guy ogling them, lol... we were going to split the two boxes, but the guy with the key shows up and produces five more boxes from under the counter We each bought three, leaving one I the case.

Things may be on the mend, all I know is this is the first .22lr I've seen in months so the 18.97 was hardly an issue. I also know in things of this nature you have to buy it when you see it. There is nothing on the horizon that tells me it will be cheaper or more plentiful in the future

Bingo. Its not just demand. Its materials.

In northern Illinois the WMs are starting to have some supply. Also the Cabela's in the Chicago burbs. Yes, prices are up some-except for Tula it seems. I think the supply was drained by a lot of first time gun buyers during the post shooting panic - but, if you just bought a new gun/ caliber you need ammo- so I don't begrudge the new people in the sport.

What frosts me are the friggin speculators. A WM clerk said he has a regular crowd at 7:00 am the morning his shipment comes in. All with their cell phones calling the shipment inventory into their buddies - who show up 15 min later as soon as the drive over from the next WM. At a recent gun show there were guys with ammo only and .22lr at $55-$60 a brick. No one was buying. I hope they get stuck with it.

Personally I just buy what I need. So, instead of buying 3 bulk packs of .22 I buy one. I figure leave some for the guy who might want to teach his son or daughter to shoot.

I'm still operating off the two 550 round boxes of .22 my mom got me for Christmas about 2 years ago. I've just been using it for my grandkids, but now that they like shooting the Mini-14 I've been going through lots of Monarch (made in Russia) .223Rem/5.56X45mm. Luckily, Academy has gone from one box per caliber per person per day to two boxes, and I can get two boxes of Monarch for $13.00 after taxes.

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I have not seen any 22lr or pistol ammo at any of the three localish Walmarts since before Christmas. I guess a price increase on something that is unobtainable doesn't make much difference. I heard yesterday that a LGS in Corpus is selling Federal primers for $6 a hundred.

A change in Wal Mart pricing indicates an increase in price from the manufacture. Academy got hit with the same increases a month or so ago. Their CCI also jumped 20%. It all depends on when their contract expires with the manufacture.

Stop blaming election and Obama for high prices and short supply. You nra/hoarder-prep people tend to make that mistake all the time. Blame it on the wacko guys running around killing mass amounts of people and children. If not for that we would still have cheap ammo and any gun at hand.

2s&w's

Nice first post.

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2s&w's, you are right in that if the wackos had not acted out, there would not be a problem. But, it was not the incident rather the Anti-second Amendment Crew reaction to the incident that put us in this place. They want to treat us all like we are wackos and use the opportunity to disarm the American population. For reasons entirely unrelated to Sandy Hook.

Bluejax has nailed it.

Bravo !!!

By the way did I mention the fact that I think this is an excellent site....Tips my hat.

NRA/hoarders-prep people that make mistakes....Heck I,m one of those.
You didn't mention 2nd Amendment supporters. Did you forget you were on a pro-gun forum?
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Went to Wally-World yesterday morning and found a box of Winchester .38 special 50 rnd box. Yes, it was a dollar or two more than the last time I purchased .38 spec. ammo, (which is the first box I have seen on the shelve in about 9 months), but I was sooooooooooo dam* happy to see the ammo, I didn't care that the price creaped up a little. I didn't have to pay GB prices or inflated gun show prices!!!

Does being on a pro gun forum mean you lose your sensibility about life. I'm pro gun and will never join the nra and i will place blame properly. How else are people supposed to react to the gun violence out there

Back to the subject of this thread ...

In my area, Walmart prices for 40S&W are inching up, not shooting up. Back in May I found and purchased Winchester FMJ 100 round value packs for $35.77. Never saw any of the stuff at WM in June or July. Now it's August and I have found and purchased 5 boxes at WM for $36.57 each. That's a "whopping" 2.2% increase since May. Still a pretty good deal. I'll probably buy some more at that price if I can find it.

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Yesterday @ WM I bought Rem Thunderbolts for $2.27 per small box of 50. That's a pre-tax .0454 cents per round. Limit 3, of course.

Regarding some comments above, I'm twelve years retired from thirty four years as a high school teacher. Before I started teaching, I figured out that taking strong positions and making strong statements in the faculty lounge as a newcomer was certainly my right but but not necessarily "the smart play". I found it was better to get a sense of what was going on and the opinions people held on topics and to demonstrate my capabilities as an instructor before strongly presenting my opinion if it went against the consensus of the group. Being understated on an internet forum for a while and listening never hurt anyone.

Same here but WWB FMJ 100 .45 is only $40.77 and Fed FMJ 100 is $28.97. 9mm is down around $22-23 for the two brands! All that is pre-tax.

IMHO, tough to justify the cost for .40 in that range

The good news is I can usually find one or more of these three on any given day. I'm fortunate that I have Walmart stores nearby that draw on different distribution centers!!!

BTW, there has been a LOT of WWB 100 .40 on the shelves recently, like 5 across by 3 deep by 2 high in multiple stores at the price you noted below!!!!

After reading some of the above comments I had to go back to the top of the thread to see if I was still on the S&W Forum or "fat fingered" the keyboard and ended up on a forum of a totally different flavor.

The NRA haters forget that if it was not for the efforts of the NRA we would probably be posting on a scrapbooking forum instead of discussing guns and ammo.

Was off today, so I figured better join them than post negative things about them. Showed up at 6:45AM at the local Walmart, there was already people gathering around the counter, by 7am the guy came with a cart of ammo cases. Picked up two boxes of the Federal 325, and one of the .380ACP Winchester 100 packs. Cant really argue about the price, the .380ACP was about the same as what I paid at the LGS. The .22's were the first I have seen since before Dec. guess the price was OK, last time I bought .22 was in 98 on sale at Kmart just as I returned from living in Germany for years a Remington 500 pack was less than $6.00 at that time, and bought a few 1000, was time to replenish what we shot this summer teaching my daughter to shoot with the new P22 pistol.

Like most here I have not seen .22 lr at Walmart since x mass time, until 3 weeks ago. They had about 20 of the Remington 525 round bricks for $21.00. I bought 2. About ten years ago the same box of Remington at Big 5 in Chula Vista CA. was $20.00. I bought a few back then when they had a coupon for $10.00. So I think $21.00 is a real good price. I hope walmart keeps up keeping the prices down.

I do believe it may be, and will say no more.

I think that some "hoarders" have been opportunists and have contributed to the ammo shortage. I buy what I need when I can find it at a reasonable price, no more. I figure that some one may need that extra box or two of .22 to teach their son or daughter to shoot or introduce their neighbor to shooting. I'd rather leave the couple of boxes for them than increase my supply.

I don't begrudge those who purchased guns in January and February--they needed ammo as first time gun owners or because they bought a new caliber. However, outside of those circumstances, to a great extent we created our own ammo shortage by showing up when the shipment comes in and always buying the limit.

You want to see prices shooting up on 22 ammo, wait till the EPA decides that all 22RF ammo must be lead free.

That limit in my area was one box per caliber with a max of 3 calibers. What many overlook is how little ammo was being received by the retailers. If a line of 10 or 20 people are waiting for ammo and only a few boxes arrive what is that really saying. Its saying there is not very much ammo out there to start with and what little is showing up is being bought out. I can tell you right now that if you were not one of the first 3-5 people in line at my local Academy you didn't get your ONE box of ammo. Ammo was scarce.

Stop and think about that. Academy, a 161 store chain, sending only 3-5 boxes of ammo to one of their stores in a delivery. Not talking cases here but boxes. The ammo disappeared long before it was ever delivered and put on the shelf to be sold. I can attest to the fact that there were many days when no ammo was delivered but people would complain that those waiting in line bought it all up. Just didn't happen that way. I know because from January 2013 to just last week I was one of those in line. There were days I could get my one box limit, days where there was no ammo delivered and those really, really rare days (3) where my 3 boxes consisted of 1,000 rounds of Federal bulk .223, 500 rounds of bulk UMC 45ACP, and 1,000 rounds of UMC bulk 9mm. For the most part I had to be happy with a 20 round box of .223 and that was it. Sometimes I could get my 3 boxes other times not.

What it all boiled down too was if you were one of the first 3-5 people in line your chances of getting some ammo was high if any came in but if you were sixth in line or greater your chance at getting any ammo dwindled the further back in line you got. It wasn't that people were buying the ammo up it was how little ammo was being delivered if any.