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I like big bore revolvers like the .44 Special and Magnums. Really like the 45-70 rifles, and have several 12 Gauge shotguns. But I also really like the unconventional stuff.
One of my favorite revolvers is my M57 no-dash .41 Magnum. Not too many people buy them anymore, and I don't know why.
One of my favorite shotguns is a M12 Winchester 16 Gauge. Try to find shells for that one in any quantity. I also prefer #5 shot. Once again, very limited supplies.
These are all "mediums". The bigger stuff and smaller stuff is easy to find. Guess I just like the road less traveled.

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I had a few Winchester md 12s in 12 ga and decided I would like to
have one in 16 ga after seeing a nice one at a local trap range. I liked
the smaller 20 ga receiver that the 16 ga was built on. Well one led to
two which became four. Recently I added a nice Winchester md 97 in
16 ga to the herd. Fourtunately one of the local big box stores carries
16 ga game loads in the usual 6 & 8 shot sizes. The 16 is obsolete
no doubt but somehow that seems to add to the appeal. The
association with the "good old days" I guess.
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A dozen .41 mag revolvers and a few 16ga shotguns here too!

Had more 16s , but safe space got tight. Still got my 16ga Rem Model 31 , 870 & 1100 , Fox Model B SxS , Savage 430 O/U , and Win 1897.
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My first GOOD pistol (my first pistol was a Charter Arms) was a OM Blackhawk, 41 magnum. Have liked the caliber ever since.

I was always a 12 gauge guy. Anything any other gauge can do, the 12 can do, and probably better.

Then I met up with Husqvarna underlever SxS shootguns. So I'm up in New Jersey, going through Sarco's back room (they had sent me garbage, and I sent it back, and told 'em I was gonna be up there on business in a couple of weeks and I'd like to come chose my own, and TJ said "come ahead") and I pick up this one little gun and say, "What the heck? Is this a 20?" Nope. 16. While, nowadays, they put smaller barrels on a 12 gauge action and call it a 16, and smaller barrels on a 20 gauge action and call it a 410, back in the olden times they actually made different size actions, to fit the different guns.

Ooooohh. So THAT'S why the 16 gauge got popular.

And somehow I ended up with three Husqvarna 16 gauge doubles.

You really want "unconventional", though, you need pre-war guns, that are chambered in short cartridges, that are not available, so you got to make your own. THAT'S what separates the men from the boys.
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Got a couple of 57s and 58. Might pick up a six inch 57 someday. I need another one

Dad had a Spanish made side by side in 16 gauge. It carried like a 20 and kicked like a 12. I took it grouse hunting one day and it taught me not to place my thumb behind the tang lever.
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I think you have to be 'in pretty deep', in order to enjoy the 'road less traveled' in the firearms world. I.E., be a dedicated handloader in order to get the most enjoyment out of certain calibers and gauges.

And since I began handloading as a teenager, I REALLY enjoy stuff like shooting and loading for 10mm, 41 mag., .45-70, .35 Whelen, at one time the .225 Win., and a few others.
For shotguns, I really enjoy the 28 gauge and do almost all bird hunting with that, reloading Win. AA hulls for a Franchi auto and a CZ SxS.
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I do! I do!

I dont own any due to price of ammo but at one point I had a 629 classic with a 6 in barrel, a Desert Eagle .50, a 45lc Derringer....

I enjoy going to the range and spending all day shooting surplus bolt rifles. I'll go through several hundred rounds of 7.62x54 then switch to 8mm Mauser and 303 Enfield. I shoot them the way they were ment to be shot. No rubber pads no cushioning. I don't shoot my 12G much because its kinda a close range firearm, I prefer trying to knock out clay pigeons from far away...basically I like wasting ammo

I have shot my friend's sing shot 45/70 and love it. I'd like to find a nice Ruger #1 in 375h&h or 9.3x62/74

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Never thought of anything .40" as a medium be it .401" or .410" before this thread. I hear medium bore and I think .30" - .35" like .30 Luger to .357 magnum. But I do get the spirit of the thread and have to agree at least somewhat.
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Maybe I'm not quite so alone after all.
After I posted this it struck me the most popular caliber in Law Enforcement today is in the "medium" range....the .40 S&W.

Yeah, I like that one too. Carrying my Glock 23 today.
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Old 08-27-2013, 12:25 PM
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Got a couple of 16s and bought a bunch of six shot during the last ammo panic. May carry one on the first day of MIs grouse season, if I don't
decide to use the flintlock blunderbuss.

Got .41s too. Short, long, blue, nickel and stainless. Even a few
Ruger .41s.

Favorite deer rifle is also an old, offbeat, one. Ruger 77RL in
.250 Savage.

Yep, got the road less traveled marked in the atlas...
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I think that I do;

For a big game rifle, I like .270 (and consider .30-06 the archetypical big cartridge with .243 the small cartridge.)
For a shotgun, I like 20 gauge (and consider 12 gauge the archetypical big gauge with .410 the small gauge.)
For a handgun, I like .40 (and consider .45 the archetypical big cartridge with 9mm the small cartridge.)
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Hmmm...I like 12 gauge shotguns and even have one of those M57 no- dash .41s. I've been thinking about a big bore lever gun too.
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I also like 45/70's..................rifle or pistols, also have a 57 no dash. Also enjoy shooting and reloading for the Nagant revolvers I own. And the M57 Yugo in 7.62x25 is a hoot to shoot!
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If ya really want a 'mid-bore' oddball , try my Herters .401 Powermag! Cartridge is the same length as a .41 or .44 mag , but a true .40/10mm cal. 10mm carbide sizer die and a .38/40 seater/roll crimp die works just fine.

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I have two 41 mags but I don't consider them "medium". I prefer them over the 44 because they are typically a smaller frame but they can be loaded to do most anything a 44 can do. Remember, there is only actually 0.019" between the two!
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I like the older stuff too. I hunt with 2 mdl 12's(12&20) and a pristeen 1897 Win. with 32" bbl. For auto's my A5 always gets the job done. 44 spl & 45LC favorite Smith revolver cartridges.
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I have a Simpson Suhl 16 ga side by side made in Germany pre- war...cheek piece, sling swivels, beautiful wood....a really sweet shooting shotgun....My Dad shot a 16 ga Ithaca Featherlight forever, my son has it now....I also have a S&W Model 53 in 22 Jet...haven't found anything on the forum about those so far.....
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I have two 41 mags but I don't consider them "medium". I prefer them over the 44 because they are typically a smaller frame but they can be loaded to do most anything a 44 can do. Remember, there is only actually 0.019" between the two!
All .41 mags from Ruger or S&W are built on the same frames as their .44 mags.


I've heard the Taurus Tracker is somewhat smaller , but who here would own a Taurus?
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I have a dozen or so Army Specials in .41 Colt, so I think that qualifies. They go $ 50.00 to $80.00 a box of 50 if you don't reload.
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I like "medium" cartridges and think they make a lot of sense, but IMHO "medium" refers to the power level, not necesarily the bore size. Geting the biggest loudest & fastest whatever seems to be the American way- which is why a lot of people who hunt smallish blacktails and whitetails carry 7mm magnums. The good old 270 is more than enough gun, in fact even the 243 or 250-3000 is plenty. Why carry a 300 Savage, 308, or even a 30-06, when you can have a 300 Win or Weatherby magnum? Or better yet, one of the new SSM's or Ultramags.
Big bore pistols-- 44 mag is popular, the 44 spl & 45 Colt not so much. People have come around some on this, but for a long time very few 45 Colts were being made and almost no new 44 spls. Seems like most people who buy new j-frame S&W's want them chambered in 357, when in most cases they're gonna be shooting 38 spls (+P or not) almost exclusively.
Persoanlly I'm happy with my 38 special revolvers, and 250-3000 & 7x57 rifles.
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Hey Alpo! So I'm not the only one who remembers SARCO! And the incomplete parts kits...

By the way, the 1st handgun I ever fired was a M-58 .41M, so I've liked that round from the beginning.
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Man, I used to have a time with them, but once I met TJ, and had a "relationship" with him, I could call and talk to him, and what I wanted ended up coming south. Ended up with three 12s, three 16s, a 9.3x57 and a 22 out of that batch of Huskies.

Then he had to go and retire. Place just weren't the same.
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yup..sounds like me...i have a number of 41 mags.and love em!
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I've heard the Taurus Tracker is somewhat smaller , but who here would own a Taurus?
I guess I was comparing my standard to supers.... My Blackhawk 41 is considerably smaller than my Super Blackhawk 44; I don't think they made a 44 non-super Blackhawk when I bought mine many years ago. Now, however, the 44 is available in the Blackhawk Bisley, which is smaller than the Super. And my Redhawk is much smaller than the Super Redhawk.
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I guess I was comparing my standard to supers.... My Blackhawk 41 is considerably smaller than my Super Blackhawk 44; I don't think they made a 44 non-super Blackhawk when I bought mine many years ago. Now, however, the 44 is available in the Blackhawk Bisley, which is smaller than the Super. And my Redhawk is much smaller than the Super Redhawk.
The actual frame is the same (get the calipers), but the grip frame of the Blackhawk is smaller and usually aluminum. The original .357 Blackhawk frame was smaller. So are the special edition flat-top .44 specials.

Ruger even made a Super Blackhawk Hunter in .41 mag.

I took a stainless Super Blackhawk grip frame and fitted it to my 4 5/8"bbl .41 mag Blackhawk.
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Hey Alpo! So I'm not the only one who remembers SARCO! And the incomplete parts kits...

By the way, the 1st handgun I ever fired was a M-58 .41M, so I've liked that round from the beginning.
I've been to Sarco's old shop in NJ many times. They recently set up their retail gun shop here in PA. I went to the grand opening of their new shop in Easton , PA. They've been setting up at quite a few gun shows around here too.
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The actual frame is the same (get the calipers), but the grip frame of the Blackhawk is smaller and usually aluminum. The original .357 Blackhawk frame was smaller. So are the special edition flat-top .44 specials.

Ruger even made a Super Blackhawk Hunter in .41 mag.

I took a stainless Super Blackhawk grip frame and fitted it to my 4 5/8"bbl .41 mag Blackhawk.
I pulled out my BH and SBH and whaddya know, the frames are the same size. The larger, steel grip frame and longer barrel make the SBH look a lot bigger and heavier. I just like carrying the 41 much better. The two-tone looks nice on your SBH.
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''Medium'' should measured in power. 45Colt and 44Sp fill the bill. My 25-3 has far less pwr than a 57 or 29..
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