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03-23-2014, 10:16 PM
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Reloaded Ammo Case Oddities
I bought some reloaded 9mm ammo. 124 gain FMJ. Over the course of firing about 75 of them, I had 2 extraction issues. These were fired in my SD9VE
First problem, the spent casing got stuck in the chamber after being fired. Couldnt fully rack the slide, but could move it far enough to field strip the gun. Got the casing removed...
Second time, the whole round got stuck. Couldnt move the slide more than a couple od millimeters. Got that cleared after I got home...
I looked at the round after I got it out and saw that where the bullet is seated in the case is bulged, and the walls of the case are bent inwards... It seems that most of the reloads are like that, to varying degrees....
Has anyone else expreienced thiat before???
Last edited by superbeast1098; 03-23-2014 at 10:17 PM.
Reason: adde make and model of gun
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03-23-2014, 10:52 PM
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Looks like bad die adjustment. If the reloader got that wrong, what else did they get wrong? I would never buy anybody else's reloads, even the commercial ones. (Black Hills are the exception). Seen too many problems.
I know many are fine with it, but case in point, those nasty reloads you just posted.
If you still want to shoot them, at least get a chamber gauge for the caliber and drop them in one at a time to see if they at least will properly fit into the chamber. This won't tell you though if the bullet seating depth is correct or if the powder charge is safe.
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That actually looks quite normal for re-loaded 9mm, sort of a waisted "Coke bottle" shape. Because of the wide variation in case wall thickness all 9mm sizing dies I have seen over-size the thicker ones to assure the thin ones are sized adequately. I have RCBS, Lyman, Lee and Redding 9mm sizers, all carbide, and all make the cases look just like yours.
The problem is probably at the base of the case, where the taper meets the solid head. The taper should nearly reach the extractor groove, not have a straight section about 1/8" long as yours do. I have seen this before with commercial reloads. The solution is to buy a Lee "Carbide Factory Crimp" 9mm sizer. The carbide ring in this die will size closer to the head of the case and reduce the area where the case is sticking. The CFC die is specifically intended to "post size" loaded ammunition and to crimp if not done in the seater die.
The CFC die is about $10 and a shell holder (Lee) about $3. If you already load this is all you need. If not then buy a Lee Hand Press too for about $35.
Or, you could take that junk back where you got it and have them replace it!!!!
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03-24-2014, 12:21 AM
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Only issue with returning it is that I bought it at a gun show... lol... I should have known better.... lol...
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Only issue with returning it is that I bought it at a gun show... lol... I should have known better.... lol...
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The vast majority of Kabooms I've ever read about have occurred with either gunshow ammo or powder.
Give the rest of the ammo to someone you don't like.
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I learned my lesson long ago -- unless reloads are mine, or come from established high-end commercial reloaders like Black Hills or Georgia Arms, I don't shoot them. Period.
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03-24-2014, 08:44 AM
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I have about 125 reloads that Im not going to use.... Im just going to chock it up to a learning experience.
Im just glad they didnt cause more problems....
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03-24-2014, 09:14 AM
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Best not to buy reloads. Just my opinion, as well.
I reload 9mm for myself, and mine don't end up looking like that.
Looks like they set up the second die wrong. Is the projectile loose? Can you turn it in the case?
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03-24-2014, 11:38 AM
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I just checked the one that came out of the gun as well as alot of the others, and the bullets are seated firmly in their cases. No loose bullets at all....
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Maybe it's my old eyes but that bullet looks like it's been crimped once and then crimped again lower down?? What's the overall length?
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Wow, I missed that, and now that I see it, look at that crimp! Anyone else roll crimp 9mm? It does look like the bullet was roll crimped, pulled, then roll crimped again!
Don't know how I missed that, I guess I just looked at the coke bottle effect. Having a roll crimp die set too low can cause that coke bottle thing, too.
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Looks like bullets that have been pulled and reloaded and.......
a set of dies set up wrong or too small of an expander due to the fact that the 9mm is a "Tapered CASE" and should NOT be the same dia. at the mouth of the case as the base !!
Option 1.
Pull the bullets and resize the brass..........
Option 2.
if you don't reload, maybe don't use them?
Your call.
+1 on not getting reloads from strangers..........mostly fly by night gun shows.
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03-29-2014, 05:32 PM
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Terrible picture for trying to tell but that round looks roll crimped and it shouldn't be, should be taper crimped, like someone else said if the loader got simple things wrong what else??
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03-29-2014, 05:32 PM
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"Wasp-Waist" is common in reloading 9mm range brass and presents no problems at all.
Setting up 9mm with a roll crimp on the other hand...
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